This is not about what is worse......bloat/torsion/cancer.....it is about one of our friends losing her beloved friend......I am very sorry Suzanne.....I know exactly how you feel......sending big hugs. Amy Greenhut Justrock German Shepherds Board Member Last Hope Safe Haven http://lasthopesafehaven.com Gen Oak Leopard Tortoises &  Tortoise Rescue Behold The Turtle,  He Makes Progress Only When He Sticks His Neck Out A Quote By James B. Conant ----- Original Message ----- From: SegerWind@xxxxxxx To: rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, October 8, 2010 7:20:20 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Yancy My deepest sincere thoughts and sympathies. steven   In a message dated 10/8/2010 5:35:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  rbuffdog s@xxxxxxxxx writes: Steve  you concerns are valid with bloat and torsion, however hemangio seems to be  on the rise. The terrible thing about it is once they are diagnosed with it  ( it can be a "silent" disease, three is nothing you can do.  You can  have the tumor removed, but I have never heard of a dog surviving more than  six months even with surgery.  You'd be amazed at how many people  have lost dogs to this...I know I was. My heart broke for Suzanne, I  felt her pain to my core, as we lost our beloved and irreplaceable "Ch.  Nitro" a little over a year ago to hemangio...almost an  identical scenario of "something was off", condition was off...he never  stopped playing or eating or romping or stealing or jumping on furniture,  till his last 24 hours. Bloat and torsion you can often head off or even  "fix" .  Many dogs survive it.  Unless you are talking about  mesenteric torsion. Hemangio is so sneaky and so subtle, that by the time  "Houston we've had a problem" shows...it's too late. There is no known  cause, there is no known genetic contributor...for now it just is....the  damn thing just is. My heart and my profound sympathies to Suzanne.  Yancy was one helluva representative of our great breed. Kathy  Tank *http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com*<http://www.victorygermanshepherds.co m/> *Home  of: CH. Elvaston's Nations Cup TC, 26 BOBs CH. Victory's  Leviathan CH. Garter's E-Male of Fran-Jo Anne Isle  * * "Victory...*Vires et honestas" On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at  3:04 PM, <SegerWind@xxxxxxx> wrote: > I am more worried about  Bloat and Torsion??? > Steven > > > In a message dated  10/8/2010 3:39:07 P.M. 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