[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: : Why newbies are quitting...or..WHY DID WE STAY
- From: Cinosam GSD <cinosamgsd@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Sharon Allbright <sharlen@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 08:52:57 -0700 (PDT)
I have seen her and though I don't recall the bitch specifically, that class of
puppy bitches were fantastic. The first place bitch both days was better than
fantastic (JMO and no, sadly I don't own her). The only thing that's a little
confusing is the second place winner both days are not owned by newbies.
Perhaps she was sold in the interim.
Cindy
<hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Apparently no one( including the breeder) has explained to the "newbie"
that perhaps if her dog is a "specialty" style animal it might not do as
well at an all-breed show. If that is the case, the person set themselves
up for failure. When you buy a puppy from a good breeder, part of what you
are supposed to be buying is guidence..ie, when to show, where to show,
etc. Sometimes even with good guidance, the newbie does what he wants to
and usually gets beat.However, all of us who have commented on this
situation haven't seen the animal in question. Could be that the second
place was generous! Even though I doubt it because I am inclined to believe
that the specialty judge knows the breed better, it is still possible that
this animal is not a star in either ring..I don't know until I have seen
it. Nonetheless, the newbie better toughen up. If she gets a truly great
one, she will still hear her share of unflattering, nasty remarks, maybe
not from the judge per se, but from the other so -called, ringside experts.
The best revenge is success! Christine
hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Steve and Christine Grainger
WWW.HICKORYHILLGSD.COM
> [Original Message]
> From: Sharon Allbright
> To:
> Date: 7/15/2007 6:42:05 PM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] : Why newbies are quitting...or..WHY DID WE STAY
>
> Perhaps that would also be a good question. I certainly didn't stay all
> these many years because someone was always telling me how great I was or
> how great my dogs were. I well remember my very first "pure-bred" German
> Shepherd Dog and I showed her at a local Sacramento show. Parker Smith,
a
> judge and member of our club told me I went 4th in a large class because
I
> handled my dog well. He said, "she is very well balanced. Nothing on
> either end".
> Sharon Allbright
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Norma Ramey"
> To: ;
> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 12:39 PM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Why newbies are quitting.....
>
>
> Wow, this is NOT right IMHO -- #1 Did the same handler take the dog into
> the AB ring as the Specialty one?
> #2 Try to educate this thoughtful owner of certain "personal preferances
> like in anything else" that this questionable
> judge may have ----- #3 Everything we've been chatting about for -- even
> legislation, shelters, etc. etc. all seems
> to go back to the one thing that is lacking in so many instances ---
> "education of the human involved" Why would
> the opinion of just 1 judge be so important --- also, an explanation for
the
> reason for - withholding a ribbon should
> be the NORM!! Looks like this judge needs a second look for all and
sundry.
> JMHO Norma no L
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gina Oesterle"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 2:01 PM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Why newbies are quitting.....
>
>
> A new to showing GSD person, not new to GSDs, recently bought a lovely
pup,
> showed her in the Lake Elmo specialty, hired a well known handler who also
> liked the pup and ended up placing 2nd out of 6 in one of the puppy
classes.
> Sounds good right? Well I just got a phone call saying that the pup was
> just shown at an all-breed show today and didn't exactly have the same
> success. The puppy was the only one in the class and came out with a
second
> place ribbon. First of all I didn't even know that was possible. I
thought
> the ribbon was withheld if the dog wasn't worthy. The judge informed this
> woman that this animal was not of the quality to deserve being in his
ring.
> Also she was told to never breed this bitch. Now, besides the outrageous
> lack of consistency in the two rings, why would someone new ever want to
> come back after being spoken to that way... I was at a loss for words
after
> this phone call... I didn't know what to tell her...
>
> Gina Oesterle
> Royal T Shepherds
>
>
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