ACtually if "Common Joe" knew the TRUE COST he would have a HEART ATTACK; Total cost over the life time of a Registered Dog is close to $35,000; or as the Study stated a BMW.  Morgan Lewis, RPh. Member GSDCA Board Member Canine Pet Rescue http://www.caninepetrescue.com/ "So Much to Do, So Little Time" --- On Sun, 7/4/10, cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Who will remain standing? To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 2:23 PM Steven writes: "... trying to increase participation need to rethink the approach, as the current approach to attracting new people to shows and this breed needs to change as the common Joe blow cannot afford to1000K- 2000K for a pup then pay the expenses to train and show it, Nor can most common people afford 1000.00 for a pet quality puppy. " Steven, somehow "common Joe" is still able to come up with 2500K to 3,000K for German bred puppies. Anyhow, I'm a "common Joe" and I think 1,000K - 2,000K for a show prospect is very reasonable. Actually, more than reasonable considering the amount of hard work and dedication it takes to produce a decent show prospect. When I first became interested in showing, I was told that the purchase price of a prospect is negligible when compared to what it will cost to finish the dog. Paulette McGuirt, GSDCA Member Wellborn-Allemande German Shepherds Qui Me Amat, Amat et Canem Meam ----- Original Message ----- From: <SegerWind@xxxxxxx> To: <pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 1:59 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Who will remain standing? Does it really mater? The economy the price of gas, handlers fees, travel costs, is it little wonder showing our beloved GSD's has indeed become a rich mans sport "my humble opinion" include the cost of purchasing a "top quality" show pup these days, pretty incredible and rideculous to be honest. I love this breed dearly, but I can tell you as someone who is not rich, all those folks trying to increase participation need to rethink the approach, as the current approach to attracting new people to shows and this breed needs to change as the common Joe blow cannot afford to1000K- 2000K for a pup then pay the expenses to train and show it, Nor can most common people afford 1000.00 for a pet quality puppy. We need to get real and realize how we currently raise and show dogs is becoming an elist sport. Just my Humble Opinion and crawling back to my corner:) Steven Segerwinds In a message dated 7/4/2010 12:09:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: That hasn't happened in the past. The SAME people get re-elected, ad nauseum!! Doesn't matter what they have done, good or bad, in the past. All I can figure is that it is name recognition.   Maybe someone should legally change their name to Max von Stephanitz. They would get elected by a landslide!! Paula, 99 days and counting Home of Best in Show, Best in Specialty Show, Multi-Group Winning, GSDCA Dual Title Award Recipient, AKC JAM/AOE, International and American Champion, Grand Champion Asgard Harley Davidson v Plamark, HT, PT, CGC, TC, HIC, OFA CHIC #64047 (Hips, Elbows, Cardiac, & Thyroid), DNA tested clear of the long-coat factor. #1 Male German Shepherd Dog in the Country, #5 German Shepherd Dog in the Country, as of 5/31/10 (Canine Chronicles)  First male German Shepherd Dog Grand Champion. ---------- Original Message ---------- Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 09:53:18 -0700 (PDT) From: MORGAN LEWIS <shadowland22000@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Who will remain standing? But at least IF you have the ANSWERS in WRITTING; The MEMBERSHIP can make them EAT their WORDS at RE-ELECTION. Maybe we ought to� use the old KENNEDY� Phrase " Ask not what the CLUB can do for YOU; but WHAT WILL YOU DO for the CLUB!! Morgan� Lewis, RPh. 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