> I can't help wondering what people are thinking who want to limit the > national judges in their ability to evaluate the dogs? Do those folks > think the > judges are stupid, incompetant, or both? If they think that, why do they > think another judge testing temperament would be any better? > Evan There is a proposal before our board to institute and award, for now called AOA for champions. It has the same requirements as the AOE Award but is specifically for Champions that are not Select. 1. This is an achievement item that an owner can strive for and is not imposed. 2. It rewards soundness and creates a distinction for the animal that achieves it. 3. It leaves the conformation judge free to do what they do without taking additional time to administer the TT. 4. It may answer to many of the concerns voiced over the past few days. 5. It provides motivation to raise the bar without excluding those who are not there yet. 6. Etc.... Some have questioned the use of the letters AOA, thinking it might be too close to AOE and might be confusing. That might be a worthy discussion, although I can tell the difference between an "A" and an "E" even at my age..... Still! The result is, the dog can still be a champion if it can pass the LLTE and get the points, but those who can also certify with OFA, have a performance title and be temperament certified are thus acknowledged. What do you think????? Dave ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================