In a message dated 7/15/06 8:03:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, inflight2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: It's a small thing to do, and it would prove that the breeders of American dogs are striving to incorporate strong nerves in their dogs. No test - no knowledge. How about we just have our Parent Club issue a statement! "THE BREEDERS OF AMERICAN DOGS ARE STRIVING TO INCORPORATE STRONG NERVES IN THEIR DOGS." That would have as much impact on the general public as testing dogs at the National. I can't help wondering what people are thinking who want to limit the national judges in their ability to evaluate the dogs? Do those folks think the judges are stupid, incompetant, or both? If they think that, why do they think another judge testing temperament would be any better? Fred said it correctly. The test is only as good as the tester. Do we elect the person to judge temperament at the national, or is it going to be someone appointed by someone else we did not elect? What causes this new terrific lack in confidence in our national judges? At one point people wanted to limit the number of Selects they could find. Then they wanted to give an extra award, first to good hips and elbows, and now for a performance award with OFA and temperament evaluation. Extra awards and titles are fine, but limitations are an interesting development. Next we are saying we should eliminate dogs from competition if they don't pass a test the day before. Who is so insecure in those we vote to judge our national that they want committees to help eliminate the entries? And, why do they feel that way? Some of those who advocate testing to take the job away from the elected judge are people I respect. I can't figure out why they have lack a lack of respect for the judge. I just do question those who question our judges. Evan_ Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================