Nah....here is the AKC letter from 2005. April 21, 2005 Mr. James Crowley The American Kennel Club New York, NY (212) 696-8234 direct number jxc@xxxxxxx The following points have been approved as the basis for establishing the new breed of White Shepherd or Berger Blanc Suisse here in the United States. 1. The GSDCA should write a letter stating that they would not protest the AKC establishing the White Shepherd as a separate breed with the Foundation Stock Service program. 1. The GSDCA would not need to change their breed standard in any way.The color white would remain a disqualification to the GSD breed. After this letter is submitted the White Shepherd Parent Club (AWSA), the AKC and the GSDCA (if they so desire) would be responsible for setting the guidelines in establishing the new breed. Logistics could be: 1. Name 2. All registry requirements 3. The possibility of the white coated GSD that is three generations white/white, and if the owner so desires, to be registered with the new breed. 4. The possibility if there are owners who wish to remain in the GSD breed with their white coated dogs, it could be permissible for them to do so. If at any point, the GSDCA would like to contact me personally. I would be more than happy to discuss these points with them. Sincerely, James Crowley AKC Secretary Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/ In a message dated 10/26/2013 12:47:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, terrycochran97756@xxxxxxxxx writes: Then we will need to vote yes on the standard change. Until the DQ for white is removed they can not become a separate breed. The way I understand it is that a new breed can not be created from a disqualification from an AKC recognized breed. If I am wrong on this please someone correct me. Terry On Friday, October 25, 2013 8:04 PM, Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: And you can see by the photo of one of their white dogs on the home page that they deserve to be a Breed that is separate and stands on its own merits. We should allow them to separate and become all they can be!! Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.marhaven.com -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: White German Shepherd Clubs They want to separate the breed to be White Shepherd Dog as it is in the UKC... Amercian White Shepherd Assn. AWSA http://www.awsaclub.com/ They want to show in GSDCA conformation as they show UKC as white GSD's... White German Shepherd Club of America WGSDCA http://wgsdca.org/ Theresa -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 10/25/13, Terry Cochran <terrycochran97756@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Which club wants to be a part of the. 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