I can't agree. Harley finished in the Specialty ring, never to return. With a few exceptions, he has shown in all-breed shows thereafter. I may be mistaken, but I think all if not most of all the 100 BOB are from all-breed shows. The judges who have seen him for the past four years or so, are the all-breed judges. That is Paula's choice. He could and would win at many of the specialty shows, but Paula made that choice. To me, the difference between and all-breed and a specialty dog, is where they are shown. Many of the dogs being shown today can win in both. But, the owners make a decision. Most of us can't do everything. Paula has done a lot, just look at the titles after his name. But, we all have to choose where we will put our efforts and most of us pick one venue or the other. Doing it all can be daunting. But I try. Evan In a message dated 4/5/12 5:27:07 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: And therein is part of our problem (in our views of GSD showing), even though it may very well be semantics. Harley is NOT "a specialty dog." A GOOD dog (as Harley IS) can do it in both rings. I applaud Paula for not limiting Harley to one type of ring. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================