Hey Paul, The best brood bitch in the world is the one that lets the stud dog produce himself. Agree or disagree?? Merry Christmas to you and yours, Terry RivendellP <rivendellp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Which bitch would you choose? Barbara asks... Which one would you choose? You have a chance to purchase one of two bitches, (not from the same litter). Both of these bitches would be bred to the same male. The imaginary male is an excellent side gaiter with a great front and rear. Bitch # 1: Beautiful shoulder, Bitch #2: Beautiful back and topline, great croup and tail set, Paul opines... While I left out several of the comments on Bitch 1 & 2, I would add it's always good to start with the best to get the better to strive for the best. All positive qualities are desirable...but not essential to a successful breeding. I would look to the producing capabilities of the bitches lines bred to a similar or any male. If Bitch 2's lines are producing bred to Rex the Wonder Dog...I could go with her or vice versa. To me it's all about the lines and how they produce and such a decision would not necessarily be based on the phenotype of either bitch. Good lines, like good dogs do tell. Actually, it's just like the relationship between Champions of Record and Registers of Merit. You can't have one without the other yet, (and this is a personal thing) I take a teensy bit more pride with the ROM's. Bitch 1 could be a stunner but not come from producing lines. If you go back in certain lines, you will notice they continue to produce quality dogs and bitches that in turn produce quality dogs and bitches. Bitch 2 on the other hand, may not be as eye appealing but have those genes that just keep giving. That's how I'd approach it... Paul ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================