I have built a number of whelping boxes. I don't usually measure, just buy the wood and start screwing it together. One box I started to build got too big, and ended up as a storage shed. True story, ask Tedi. Tedi had the best idea of all. She went to Ikea and purchased a set of shelves. When put together, (very easy, and doesn't need painting), leave the shelves out, and lay it down. It makes a perfect whelping box, and is easy to clean, can be disassembled to store, and is very strong. This is the best way to build a whelping box, cost less than wood, and is always assembled correctly. Requires only a screwdriver, takes no plans, and looks very professional. And, you can always say you built it yourself. Evan Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together In a message dated 5/19/2008 11:02:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cinosamgsd@xxxxxxxxx writes: I would build one bigger than 4x4 (I have this size and it is too small IMO), and I would not put a floor in it...much easier to clean if it is just the sides. **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================