I can only comment on shoulders from the aspect of judging other breeds.... and preparing to apply for new breeds...... Ignoring poor fronts, thinking that they can be "bred back" at a future date, is a terrible mistake. I have spent 5 years now attending judges education and getting ringside mentoring in Boxers and Dobes....ask any of these folks what they think about front assemblies and they will tell you they have lost them and they have no where to go to get them back. GSD still have some options.......but I see many rewarded that are poorly built. It is the judges obligation to maintain the structure of this breed.....if correct structure is rewarded, the breeder/exhibitor will follow the example. Kay -Kay Reamensnyder and Betty Doerpinghaus -Home of Bedkar German Shepherds -bedkar@xxxxx -Visit our Website: www.bedkargsd.com > From: ELG440@xxxxxxx> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:23:46 -0500> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] What I would do> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > In a message dated 11/11/08 8:04:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, > edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:> Lets say you have a male with tremendous everything!....everything but he's > only got a fair shoulder ( front-movement).....my handler would say take him > herding and save your money...> ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================