Liz, In responding to my post Two Days and Four Shows you stated the following: "The local specialty club here in Utah did that one year. We brought in one all-breed style judge, and one specialty-style judge. The draw was not good for either one." (snipped). I did not mean to infer that. Find specialty judges who are well respected for their experience and knowledge but don't play the "celebrity" game like I think too many otherwise good judges do. Jim ****** Stop Aerial Wolf Killing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGPFPBmzRrQ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================