Tom, In your response to my original post you state: "Your post seems to suggest that maybe clubs should find some incompetent judges that won't find the superstar(s)." (snipped). Superstars was probably a poor choice of words in terms of what I was trying to get across. I believe that clubs trying to get large entries should realize that in attempting to attract good entries year after year might want to find experienced and knowledgeable judges who do not play the "celebrity" game that IMO has corrupted our sport. Then again bringing in judges with integrity may lead some exhibitors not to show up. People disagree with me but there are too many otherwise good judges who behave this way. Saying the truth as I see it doesn't discredit our judges. There are a lot of very good judges who do not play the game the way I describe. Jim ***** Stop Aerial Wolf Killing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGPFPBmzRrQ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================