With all the work I have done in the past 8 years, when I have changed the way I look at my business, I have come to the conclusing that strong leadership and ownership can keep any pack of dogs getting along. Bertha is agressive, in many ways, but she would never ever ever cross her dam. She picks on Sissy, a lot, and it is agressive and dominant, but Sissy openly begs to be dominated. I only express my alpha bitch feelings when I see Bertha acting up without provocation. If she walks over to Sissy and puts her tail up high, and arches her back a bit, I chime in. It ends and that is that. If I could do when I was 8 what I can do now, I probably could have stopped the issues between Vinky and Theana. But I was a kid and they both out weighted me, in many ways. Now, I have brought together many dogs that the owners were sure would never get along. I would love the chance to try my methods on some of the bitches owned by fellow listers. If I am ever in your area, ask me. If I have time I will surely try. I think all dogs can get along, if they have the right signals telling them they are one pack and therefore must get along. Just my ever humble opinion, and yes, of myself too. sheila TISHW@xxxxxxx wrote: In a message dated 5/15/2008 10:27:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gsdramey@xxxxxxx writes: I'd say dogs will hold a truce and then fight a bit and be Ok again - BUT once the bitches have a serious disagreement - it is hate for life after that Boy, you can say that again!! Tish **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================