In a message dated 8/11/11 4:24:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jackkilgour@xxxxxxx writes: BTW...did they hire the lawyer? I use that joke with new lawyers I hire. We often forget to ask the client what they want. We go off on a rant about what we can do, and how the courts will rule and how much it will cost. Often if I ask what the client wants, I can say it can't be done, or what needs to be done. That is especially true in family law or estate work. So often we start talking about custody, and then find out our client doesn't want the kids. That is why when we talk about our parent club, we should first consider what we want from them. And, they should consider what we want, before they go off to slay a couple of dragons. Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================