[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The Croup

  • From: Peggy <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Crystaridge <crystaridge@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:34:48 -0400

If you think that he is correct when he says that the tibia is the 
stifle, then you need a better book.

> Also you have written that the AXIS of a bone is parallel to a 
> joint...not the bone itself.   That is not what is written in your 
> original post, which said that the bone itself was parallel to the 
> joint...not possible.  Of course, perhaps our understanding of the 
> word axis is different.............
>    Since the original question asked about the croup, my explanation 
> was only to help Jackie understand how hindquarter structure affected 
> the croup.  I only went into more detail about the structure of the 
> hindquarters in response to Nancy's post, which I believe to be 
> incorrect.  

    No one has argued about how or why the croup affects movement; we 
all seem to agree on that, even Syd when she mentioned the croup on 
different horses. However, Nancy's explanation was not only incorrect as 
it referred to location of the croup, but also in that it seemed to 
stray off into talk about angles and bone structure...not only not 
pertinent to the original question, but incorrect according to what I 
know to be correct.  I did not and still do not believe that her 
explanation clarified anything.  This latest information is also 
incorrect...I defy anyone to prove that the tibia is the stifle, for 
example.
    Just because someone has written a book or drawn a diagram doesn't 
mean that it is correct, or that the reader understands.  We are all 
supposed
to know what bones make the angles both in the forehand and the 
hindquarter...none of this explains why you wrote that the croup begins 
at the 7th vertebra of the loin (incorrect terminology...those vertebrae 
are the lumbar vertebrae.
       I occasionally speak to different groups on comparative 
anatomy...that is, how you can compare your dog's structure to your 
own...thereby better understand
how your dog is made and how he moves.  I think perhaps anyone who 
thinks that the tibia is the stifle needs to sit down, bend their knees, 
and try to figure out how their tibia (long bones) bends in the middle. 
       Your book may have been written by someone who knew how to work 
dogs...but I suggest you consult with a veterinarian to learn how the 
bones fit together.
Peggy


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