In a message dated 9/6/2006 3:32:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, MarcatoGSD@xxxxxxx writes: Could somebody please explain to me the function of the croup? Why it matters if it is too long, short, or steep? I've heard it mentioned more than once that the croup has a good deal to do with how the dog moves, but never an explanation of why. - Jackie I can't stomach a bad croup so I'll bite <G>. An ideal croup is paramount for the rear assembly to function. It should slope fifteen degrees, and should, along with other sections of the rear, balance the fore assembly. Here's a link; _http://www.gsdca.org/Noframes/standard/Illo19.htm_ (http://www.gsdca.org/Noframes/standard/Illo19.htm) If a croup is too long and flat and the dog lacks drive; it's back foot falls/lands too far behind to be efficient; too steep and short and the dog can't open up properly behind. (There are other things that when out of proportion that can cause that too.) Actually, I see a lot of short, flat croups. (Dog will lack drive). Pet peeve....I hate a tail that looks like it was stuck on! (Not speaking function, just hate that look!) Kathy member GSDCA, DVGSDC three generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================