[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The Benefits of a "Working Class". Dogs and people.
- From: edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx
- To: rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:32:08 +0000 (UTC)
Ruth is some one I usually agree with....which means something is really wrong
with her...lol....she is "spot perfect" with her last post.....FB
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From: "Ruth Scheubler" <rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx>
To: zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx, fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx, marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx,
"Showgsd" <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 12:29:38 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The Benefits of a "Working Class". Dogs and people.
If conformation showing were really to be about breed improvement, a training
title, more consequential than the lowest level, would be a requirement. But a
dog show is a dog show and not a true breed improvement mechanism.
In a perfect world it would all be one and the same - but we all know the world
is not perfect.
Ruth
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From: Zoa Rockenstein <zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx>
To: fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx; marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx; Showgsd
<Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 10:25:29 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The Benefits of a "Working Class". Dogs and people.
The working dog people are, by no means, the only people who need to get
educated! Â We have much to learn from each other. Â I was hoping that was the
whole point of this discussion. Â Here it comes....if I had my way, a dog would
have to have at least the first level of a performance/working title to be
shown
in BOB at our National. Â There is a basis for this conclusion in research.
 It
is not just my personal preference/opinion.
Â
Zoa
Dr. Zoa Rockenstein
www.riverrockshepherds.com
Home of Working Champions
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From: Terry Cochran <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx>
To: marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx; Showgsd <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 11:54:01 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The Benefits of a "Working Class". Dogs and people.
Thank You Jackie!!!! I was sitting here with duct tape on my hands. :0) It
amazes me that the conformation folks think so little of the performance folks
!!!!!! Good Lord get over yourselves. :0) I was asked one time why not go to a
good American line dog to improve working ability. My response was for the same
reason they didn't go to a German line to improve front reach. You can find
both
things in both lines but because they are not the measure looked for in each
ring you are going to have a harder time finding it. It could be a class where
you wouldn't see dragging toes, dogs that are as long as freight trains,egg
beater rears and fronts so wide you could drive a bus through the front legs.
That I would agree with.
Ok now beat me up :0)
Terry hiding under the bed!
Er, I hate to be a "downer", but while I'm completely on board for a working
dog class at the national, it does seem a little presumptuous that the
"Working dog fancy" needs to be educated.
Now, when you say working dog folks, I'm not sure if you mean all
performance exhibitors, but there's performance dogs and there are the
working line dogs (which are not the same as the West German Show Lines).
The working line people certainly consider structure in their breedings, but
not in the same manner that conformation exhibitors do.
I would appreciate clarification though, if you can give it.
--
Jackie & Jonathan Nguyen Marcato German
Shepherds<http://www.marcatogermanshepherds.com>
S Konzert vom Drachenberg, RN, CD, CGC "Strauss"
Devine's Gunpowder N Lead "Mirada"
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