[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Thanks/Toxic Gut
- From: "Deanne Jur" <djur@xxxxxxx>
- To: <dan-ann@xxxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:18:23 -0600
Sally,
All good information IMO! I do believe that the majority of us all want what
is right for the breed and work hard studying the lines (with what
information may be available to us), etc in order to make the best
'informed' choices in our breeding programs.
Health, temperament and longevity weigh high on my important list in
choosing a mate. However, without proper and in-depth knowledge of the
individuals within said pedigree, it is all a crap shoot!
I too understand how difficult it can be to make the decision to eliminate a
good bitch/stud from your program because of a few issues. Yes, it does take
two to tango and sometimes it is just that one pair up that produced
problems.
Hard decision's need to made by responsible and caring people and only they
(us) can change the outcome by the process of eliminating and supplying
proper and truthful info.
Good discussion.
Deanne Jur
Winnipeg, Canada
From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx On Behalf Of sally
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 5:26 PM
Gary
Let me throw some thing in here-
Everyone has a problem sometime but some have more problems then others.
I truly believe in survival of the fittest. When I was new at this I
tried to justify using animals for breeding that had some problems(health)
but that only led to heart break for everyone involved. I got tough and
said no more. Any animal with health problems did not get bred.- Once I
did that the problems disappeared for the most part
The other thing I believe in is these are dogs they should be treated like
dogs. My dogs are fed twice a day a good quality dog food with a little
water and a spoon of meat. They are not confined before or after eating
they are not given supplements- They live out side without heat or air
conditioning and they are big strong healthy and live a long time- I let
them stand on their own 4 feet. Of course I give medical care when needed.
My girl with the allergies has been spayed. My heart breaks as she was one
of the last daughters out of my Seiko but I would not chance her producing
more allergies.
Sometimes people just have to say enough is enough and turn around and go a
different direction
Sally
www.embroiderybysally.org
Saturday, January 17th Mike wrote:
First M is for Mike ;-)
Next, I think you have every right, and quite frankly the responsibility to
speak up about issues affecting "Your" dogs. Maybe the Redbook is best for
anonimity, but I dont' think we get enough responses there to be helpful
Sheila and I have always been open about issues affecting our dogs, how else
can you make informed decisions. We've had two mesenteric torsions and one
gastrol enterits, and have also had two die with no answer from autopsy's
other then GI issues were ruled out in those cases. In thirty years, I don't
think thats a bad record. Continuing to educate ourselves tho, is paramount
to the future of the breed.
Now, I'm not one to over-react to this information, I simply want to have
the whole picture. I'm still learning about those folks who would prefer to
bury this side of our breed or their heads in the sand, it is very
unfortunate that that is the path they have chosen.
In coaching new or inexperienced breeders, one of our recommendations is to
not run to the latest and greatest "young" flavor of the month. Please look
at the 8-10 year old males that have a track record and progeny that 5-8
years old for review. This has been a result of our McDonalds fast food
mentality
And I also feel we do have to be somewhat pragmatic, lets face it there is a
reason canines have more then one puppy - nature expects there to be loss.
The tough part is the emotional side of the loss affects us as humans and
our inability to "Fix it". There will always be something that affects our
great breed, we must meet them head on and with as much information as
possible.
Just rambling,
M
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