[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Stormy's post
- From: Santanagsd1954@xxxxxx
- To: pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 16:25:20 EST
In a message dated 12/7/2006 12:43:14 PM Pacific Standard Time,
The AKC is not going to accept that responsibility. The AKC is passing the
buck to the breeds, breed clubs, and breeders. In spite of claiming to have
spent hundreds of thousands of dollars educating its judges, the AKC has
actually
not spent much...of course, they include the Field Reps salaries and expense
accounts in their "judges' education" budget, I've been told, and perhaps that
explains the claim of having spent so much.
I realize that not every breeder, and not every judge, is qualified to teach
someone else about the breed. Nevertheless, there are people who have
knowledge they can share. Of course, there are those who have nothing of value
to
impart...that is true. All one has to do is look at the dogs some people rave
about, and that is very evident.
Still -- if it is going to be the job of people like some on this list to
educate those who want to judge the breed, then we'd best figure out a way to
do
it.
Maybe we will have to count on the intelligence of some of the wanna-be
judges to sort the wheat from the chaff...I don't see a way around it,
actually,
other than that.
I remember being at a judges' seminar for Shepherds a few years ago...the
person giving the seminar presented bad examples and misinformation...
luckily there was someone there who had more knowledge and corrected the
errors...but who knows how many times this happened before and since?
The point, I think, is that we aren't going to teach these people anatomy or
ring procedure...we are supposed to get them to understand what to look for.
If one of those things is GSD sidegait, then the person doing the teaching
had best understand it, at least enough to recognize lifting and toe dragging
and bad backs, etc., and explain why these things, while seen frequently, are
incorrect.
If we are going to teach them about type, then the people teaching had best
know what type is, and how to explain the variations in style we see...without
making excuses for the long legged dogs whose chests barely make it to the
elbow, for example.......
Good mentors have to be found. In the past, most of us here found our own.
The AKC isn't happy with this...they want to have a bunch of people around who
can mentor those who want to judge the breed. Not everyone who mentors has to
have bred 5 Selects, or judged the National...although that might be nice...
what is needed is people who can explain to people from other breeds why our
dogs are the way they are, why we move them so much, what exactly we're
looking for in the way of type and gait........and those who can do that, even
if
they don't all agree on which is the best dog in the ring on the day, will be
the ones who will impart available knowledge. Not the blowhards who can't judge
without having read the Review, or the "fan club" members, but people who know
something and can share it without confusing people............
There are people who are going to be approved to judge the breed. Shouldn't
we want to help make them better? They may never get to judge a dog who goes on
to become a Grand Victor, or even a Select, or an ROM...but they are going to
be giving points...........shouldn't we want to help them as much as we can?
Should that be such a hard task?
Peggy
Santanagsd1954@xxxxxx wrote:
>
>
> I AM JUST CONCERNED WITH PEOPLE WHO REALLY KNOW LITTLE ABOUT THE BREED
> TRYING TO TEACH OTHERS , WHO KNOW VERY LITTLE... AS THE OLD SAYING GOES..'A
> LITTLE
> KNOWLEDGE IS A DANGEROUS THING'...
>
> IF THE AKC IS DEFINETLY DECIDED TO DO THIS , AS YOU SAY, AND IF THEY WISH TO
> TAKE ON THE RESPONSIBLITY OF SELECTING TOP-QUALIFIED MENTORS, AND THEN
> CAREFULLY FOLLOWING THEIR PROGRESS AND PROGRAMS... PLUS MONITORING THE
> EDUCATION
> PROGRESS , OF THOSE THEY ARE TEACHING , BY WHATEVER METHODS ARE POSSIBLE TO
> ASSURE EXCELLENT RESULTS., FOR THE GS BREED...GO FOR IT...BARB WILLIAMS
>
PEGGY: I DO NOT DISAGREE WITH TEACHING THOSE INTERESTED ABOUT THE BREED..
BELIEVE ME!!!
BUT I AM ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT OUR BREED AND THOSE WHO PASS OPINIONS ON
IT, TO EDUCATE OTHERS...WITH BADGES, POSSIBLY GIVING SOME WHO ARE NOT TRULY
QUALIFIED TO MENTOR .
WE ALL CAN CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE DIFFERENCES OF OPINIONS ON JUST THIS
LIST.. THE ILLUSTRATED STANDARD DISCUSSION IS A GOOD CASE IN POINT. AS WELL AS
'LEVEL BACKS.'...THREADS..
I THINK OUR GSDCA BOARD AND MEMBERS, SHOULD GET INVOLVED AND HAVE THEIR
SAY AND SUGGESTIONS ON HOW IT IS TO BE HANDLED, TO PRESENT TO THE AKC...
THERE ARE A LOT OF VERY INTELLIGENT AND VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE WITH A
LOT OF GOOD IDEAS , ON THIS LIST AND ON OUR BOARD AND THE MEMBERSHIP.....AND
MAYBE IF WE COULD ALL COME UP WITH A SOLID AND SOUND PROGRAM, THAT WAS
WELL-PRESENTED TO THE AKC ON MENTORS...IT WOULD HELP ..BARB WILLIAMS.
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