[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Spare Me
- From: Edwin Hill <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: Helen Franklin <helen@xxxxxxxxxx>, freelist <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 19:07:16 -0700 (PDT)
I love you Helen...but then again ,I love most good looking women!...lol...Ed
Helen Franklin <helen@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Yes Ed, I remember when you phoned
about your dog, and found your attitude so
refreshing. We get thanked by the winners but almost never by those that
didn't win. I remembered you for that. This is America where we are all
entitled to our own opinions, voices, beliefs etc. It is wonderful when people
coming from opposing views can discuss their views without name calling or
finger pointing. I am doing just as you are, "calling them like I see them."
We just wear different glasses...and no, mine are not rose colored, although I
tend to be the half-full type. We most definately can agree to disagree and I
bet there are more things we agree about then don't.
Isn't it nice to be "grownups."
Best wishes, Helen
> Before I respond to Helen let me say a few things first....in 1998 I showed
> my dog to Ms. Franklin in San Diego California in open class....Helen placed
> him 5th out of a class of 5...a few weeks later, not knowing Helen and her
> not knowing me, I sent her an e-mail thanking her for doing what I thought
> was a wonderful job!, I told her she put my open male last in the class ( he
> very seldom ever finished out of the ribbons) and that is exactly where he
> should have been! I had never before or never since e-mailed a judge about a
> show my dog was in...But I was impressed with Ms. Franklin...and to this day
> I still am...but Helen my dear....we will each die disagreeing with each
> other about the games, politics and shenanigans ( that's a word I seldom use)
> that go on in the conformation ring....and money has nothing to do with
> honesty...it just exposes the lack of it quicker....99% of all judges
> honest???...well I have seen all of the remaining 1 per cent...everyone on
> this list
> for more than a week knows a judge that they believe is suspect...the new
> folks see it many times quicker than the folks that have been around for
> years...Dr Phil always says "you can't fix a problem that you won't
> acknowledge"..there are integrity issues showing dogs....but If you think
> like the "O.J. jury"...you are free to do so.....but your position is not
> supported by the facts...I have a bad habit that offends people...I don't
> mean to offend them...but I call em like I see em...Ed Hill
>
>
> Helen Franklin wrote:
> Politics is a losers excuse! If you have a good dog, it will win. If you
> have
> a great dog, it will win most of the time. If you think you have a good one
> and you lose a lot, you have a lot to learn. I am quite sure that 99% of
> judges are honest. Some arn't too smart, but they're honest. This is not a
> big money game like horses and purses. For most, including judges, this is
> only
> a hobby. The reputation of a judge is based upon their honesty and breed
> knowledge, all of which can be easily seen by the dogs that have received
> awards from them.
> The German Shepherd world is a small one. Everyone who has been around for a
> long time knows everyone else. This does not make a judge crooked if they
> happen to win under someone they know. One way to tell if it's honest....how
> many other judges have put that same dog up. If you suspect "politics" and
> the
> dog has won under 10 other judges...wrong! If you see two judges exchanging
> favors by constantly putting up each others dog...one would have to question
> that. There are even some of us who do not breed or exhibit anymore. There is
> no such thing as "politics" for us...we have nothing to win or lose. I will
> go
> down shouting that politics is a loser's excuse unless shown otherwise.
> Further, I strongly feel that this negative untrue voice is harmful to those
> that are new to the breed. New people, close your ears. Come talk to me.
> Helen
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