You are sooo right, Molly, you are never too old to learn new things about
this breed.
For example, I can see that our dogs have leveled out somewhat, the
angulation does not seem that pronounced as it was about 10 years or so ago.
Although I no longer show I am still interested in what is happening with
our wonderful breed.
Lee F.
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Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sorta shocking
Am the same Cynthia. I still get a redbook every year because I like to
study what lines work well together and how the top dogs have produced.
There is always something new to be learned.
Molly
Trillia GSD's bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx
Member GSDCC, GSDCA, Life member CKC
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Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sorta shocking
I guess my point wasn't really show vs working people, but rather the lack
of interest of people in learning as much about their breed as possible. I
want to know as much as I can. Even though I didn't start out in
conformation, I wanted to learn what made a good shepherd good. I studied
old reviews, videos, books and still do. My friends just don't seem to have
that interest. Cynthia.
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On Sep 7, 2015, at 9:47 AM, edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
30 years ago I trained with a Schutzhund group that included the San Jose
Police K-9 officers! The overwhelming majority detested the so called
American show German sHepherd Dog! Their attitude didn't bother me ( I march
to the tune of my own drummer) my goal back then was to have a SchIII and an
AKC champion in the same dog! Most of them told me I was crazy and it would
never happen! They were right BOTH times! lol it's hard to chase two
rabbits at the same time! You end up not catching either one! Ed
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I was just sitting here thinking I could never train under someone so closed
minded as the training director below. What else doesn't she know and in
what other ways are her personal biases and prejudices preventing her
students from growing/learning? Or is her little niche just a way to sell
puppies/dogs?
Kathy Salvucci, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/
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Eastern Daylight Time, edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Would have replied privately but your address was no where to be found so I
will " olsonize" my response....: you don't need to belong to the GSDCA to
learn about the breed! And knowing what I know now, if I had it to do all
over again I would have NEVER joined the club! And being a club member is
NOT a bad thing but because of the way the club operates it certainly
conflicts with my maverick type personality, as do most things. Ed Hill
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From: Cynthia Van Den Berge
To: freelist
Sent: September 7, 2015 at 6:42 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Sorta shocking
I belong to a local IPO club. It a mix of breeds but most are GSDs.
Occasionally I mention something related to conformation, specialty shows or
the parent Club. It shocks me that these folks know nothing about the above
and couldn't care less it seems. Just yesterday a guy who has two shepherds
and puts a lot of time into working them mentioned that he was headed to
Purina in late October for some trial. I asked why he didn't go to the
National ( he is retired and has plenty of $$). His dog is a good worker and
he could potentially do pretty well. He didn't know what I was even talking
about. Had no clue what a National was or anything about the parent club.
He is not alone....that seems to be the attitude of every GSD owner in the
club. Why is that? When I got my first shepherd in the early 70s, even
though he was a pet, I wanted, was hungry, to learn everything about the
breed. Like many, I started him in obedience, joined a local club (GSDC of
Atlanta) learned a lot and the story goes on. Why am I not seeing this with
my friends? We have a local club (GSDC of Memphis) who would love to have
them and would work to include them in activities and provide things that
would interest them.
One thing, our IPO club training director is a working line breeder and
hates all things American...so, I am sure her attitude rubs off. Many of
the club members have bought dogs from her (including me). It just
frustrates me that here are at least 6 people who are deeply involved with
their dogs, but have no desire to learn more about the breed. What to do?
Cynthia
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