I agree with this. Unless the owner of the stud dog had him checked and a vet confirmed he is sterile or has issues, even missing 3 times doesn't tell me anything. Stud dogs seem to get blamed for all the misses and any issues that are produced. However, I believe, and so do many vets including Dr. Hutchinson, that more than 95% of misses are either timing or issues with the bitch - NOT the male. I an not saying the dog isn't without issue, but would question the owner to see if they have indeed had the dog checked....and go from there. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Jackie Short <marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, Apr 16, 2010 10:50 am Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Something to discuss/BITCHES Personally I don't think a dog missing three times is a big deal. Could ust be really bad luck and the timing was incorrect. And backing out of a reeding doesn't seem too strange to me. Things come up. Just saying. - ackie and Strauss ===========================================================================OST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original uthor and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind re permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the howgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER F ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL ARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A IOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org ATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================