We got a bitch back some years ago and were trying to get her finished and then special her for a while. She went on Cheque Drops and getting her pregnant after that was something of a chore. She was bred twice, missed both times. Third time she had a litter of three via c-section. Next time she didn't conceive. Then had a litter of 5 normally. Final litter was another litter of 5. To this day, we blame the Cheque drops for the reproductive problems, and like Candy's experience, alot of folks were surprised we even got puppies out of her. She came from a litter of 10 and her dam and every bitch in her pedigree did litters of 10 or more... I still think the drugs screwed her up. Never again, will I do that. If I think a bitch is good enough to special, then she is good enough to be bred... BTW: Someone asked how I know the other dog is sterile. He was used three times before being specialled and missed. Someone wanted to use him a few months ago and the owned agreed and then backed out a week or two later.... Jessica MacMillan No Frills Dog Bathing Service & Design Paisley Dals (www.paisleydals.com) & The Shepherd Girls (Simmie, CGC, TDI, TC, HIC & Pepper, HIC) Member of: DCA, GSDCA & GTCDC _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================