Hate to burst your bubble Sweetie, but you CAN tell shoulder assembly and length on a newborn pup or colt. These ratios are unchanging. If a puppy or colt has a short upper arm at birth, or straight shoulder, it will remain so. Croups change, shoulders are constant. I don't "claim" to be able to tell, nor do others.....you CAN tell, if you know what you are looking for, and how it should go together. So laugh away. Kathy On 19/12/2007, Jessica MacMillan <spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Okay - > > Just a fun question - > > How many in GSD "think" they can tell shoulders on a newborn pup? > > We have all the dal folks that "claim" they have the best eye and they can > tell ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================