My Dad jokes but I can tell you he knows a good one:) After a few litters we talked with Cappy and Gloria. They like to look at their lines at 6,8, & 12 weeks. But they can tell at birth:) Liz likes to look at them at 5 & 9 weeks I think it was? Typical 'West Coast' stuff - I like to see at 6 & 12 weeks. THEN we bred to a 'East Coast' style dog. I didn't like the pups at 6 & 12 weeks. I told my Dad to ship them off to a pet home QUICK before anyone finds out!<LOL> But at 9 & 15 weeks WOW - Super stars! <G> They are now 7 months and back to oooo - GROSS<LOL> It all depends on the timing of the lines and how the puppies grow as far as I know. Which is not much - lots of learning to do. Thanks for the great discussion! Alycia -------------- Original message from "David Fritsche" <d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx>: -------------- > > Okay - > > Just a fun question - > > How many in GSD "think" they can tell shoulders on a newborn pup? > > Jess Mac > > Some people can tell at birth, so they tell me. > Some can tell at 4 weeks, I've heard. > Some can absolutely tell at 8 weeks. > Some can tell at 12 weeks for sure. > Some like to make the decision at 4 month. > Some at 6 months.... > > I am unique in that I can tell immediately, when the good judge point at them > in the ring! > Dave > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original > author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any > kind > are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the > Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER > OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF > ALL > PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A > VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================