[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sad National--Other Nationals counts?

  • From: blackhawkfarmsllc@xxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: SegerWind@xxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 00:55:56 +0000 (UTC)

No, not really, because wheatens have a fair mix of owner handlers in them and 
Most of the Water Dog people hire handlers as it is a very handler oriented 
breed. 
Most of the CA wheaten people still make the trek back east for Montgomery 
county (And yes, granted a few said they have given up a few shows last month 
to assure they had the finances for Hatboro, Devon and Mont.County). 
So I dont think Economics play a MAJOR role in it, it does affect what people 
do, but I dont suspect that is the entire answer. 

Mike 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: SegerWind@xxxxxxx 
To: blackhawkfarmsllc@xxxxxxxxxxx, geschette@xxxxxxx 
Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, gailbauman1@xxxxxxx 
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:44:01 PM 
Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Sad National--Other Nationals counts? 


Economics ??????????? 


In a message dated 9/25/2010 7:42:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
blackhawkfarmsllc@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: 

Greg, 
I was just looking at the Soft Coated Wheaten entry for their national and we 
have more Wheatens (244 total entries) than Shepherds. Our nationals is always 
held at Montgomery County, Pennsylvania. (On the Hatboro, Devon, Morris and 
Essex weekend) 
This year, the Portuguese Water Dog National is in San Luis Obispo, CA on 
October 2-8, The total entry is 271 
271 PORT WATERDOG 54-87- 41-30 
40 FUTURITY 
78 SWEEPSTAKES 
37 VETERANS SWEEPSTAKES 
14 VETERAN DOGS 
29 VETERAN BITCHES 
8 WORKING TITLED DOGS 
8 WORKING TITLED BITCHES 
14 STUD DOG 
16 BROOD BITCH 
5 BRACE 

You have said yourself the Vizsla National has more dogs there than we have 
shepherds. 
So the real question, why is a popular breed such as shepherds, being hammered 
in entries while the "not so popular breeds" like wheatens, waterdogs and 
vizlas numbers are strong for their nationals... and sadly, does anyone really 
care??? 

Mike Lynch 
BlackHawk Farms, LLC 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Eschette" <geschette@xxxxxxx> 
To: gailbauman1@xxxxxxx 
Cc: "ShowGSDs" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 6:44:33 PM 
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sad National 

I am going to the vizsla nationals next week. I have more vizslas to show than 
German shepherds. And actually the vizsla national entry is bigger than the 
shepherd nationals. 
72-115 92 85 

Greg 
Sent from my iPhone 

On Sep 25, 2010, at 6:22 PM, Gail BAUMAN <gailbauman1@xxxxxxx> wrote: 

> I remember back in the day....a friend of mine and I would take my first show 
> dog to any shows we could make, and it was at least once a month if not twice 
> - it was such a fun time - now things are so different! Picking and choosing 
> used to not even be something we'd consider - we just went because it was fun 
> and we loved going - now I won't be going to even some of the closer shows 
> because the judges aren't good, and I just can't afford that any more. 
> 
> Gail Bauman 
> Liebchen German Shepherds 
> Home of: 
> SEL EX CH Liebchen's Boogie Wonderland, OFA EX 
> Liebchen's Eine Kleine Nachtmusik (major pointed) 
> Liebchen's Clair De Lune (ch pointed, BOB) 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> From: SegerWind@xxxxxxx 
>> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:14:10 -0400 
>> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sad National 
>> To: irrenhaus4@xxxxxxxxxxx; bedkar@xxxxx 
>> CC: arcturus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> 
>> Hi I am thinking Economy !!! It is interesting to read who thinks the 'big 
>> breeders" are or are not:) I have been talking to my Mom Mona and the 
>> economy has hit her business big time for the first time in the last 2 
>> years. I 
>> Have a show puppy now and I can say I will pick and choose where I show her 
>> when she grows up:) 
>> Just my thoughts:) 
>> Steven 
>> Segerwinds 
>> Home of Asgard's Contezza 
>> 
>> 
>> In a message dated 9/25/2010 5:03:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
>> irrenhaus4@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: 
>> Kay Reamensnyder Betty Doerpinghaus wrote: 
>>> The issue is not whether Arcturus is "right or wrong"..... 
>>> the issue is how the National is "perceived" by some. 
>>> 
>>> -Kay Reamensnyder and Betty Doerpinghaus 
>>> -Home of Bedkar German Shepherds 
>>> -bedkar@xxxxx 
>>> -Visit our Website: www.bedkargsd.com 
>>> 
>>> *I have found that there are always people with the attitude that 
>> everything is "fixed" in advance, and there is no chance for the "little 
>> guy". 
>> Much of the fun of showing is proving these pessimistic types wrong!! 
>> Remember the old saying: if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the 
>> kitchen? 
>> There are many who are willing to stand a bit of heat !! Doris E* 
>>> 
>> 
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