One of the problems and advantages of by-laws are that they need to be clear enough to do business, yet "vague" enough that for every little change that an organization needs, there isn't the need to create a change in the by-laws. Every by-law changes has to be 1) (in our case) accepted by AKC 2)voted on by the organization. Hence the overwhelming P&P :-) Stormy Hope On Sep 21, 2011, at 10:10 AM, Chris S. Kimerer wrote: Well, I for one have! With this past years events, that is one thing it did make me do, I now make sure I read the minutes. I did read the By-Laws, most of the P&P (that is one overwhelming document), and parts of Roberts Rule of Order. By reading them, I found out that our By-Laws are rather vague on some things and our P & P is not up to date. I have a friend that knows Roberts Rule of Order very well and usually ask her where to find things when I need them. I do encourage everyone to become familiar with proper protocol regarding Club Events & Board Meetings. Another thing I realized throughout all this is how much info there really is on the GSDCA website, it is a great tool for our organization. Be informed, that way one can make their own informed decisions, instead of believing everything they hear or read. Chris Chris S. (Jolley) Kimerer www.tanbarkgsd.com Ch. Tanbark's 2MuchBling Joelle Aramist OFA H/E Ch. Trotwood's Emerald v Tanbark Joelle Aramist AOE Sel.Ex.Ch.Carousel Farms Samantha, PT, TC OFA H/E Ch. CaralonQED JD Drew Bleibtreu, RN OFA H/E Ch. Cresther's Blast of Kenlyn, HI, CDX, OFA From: Doc Zoe <wynsum@xxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 11:27 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] SOD SOD SOD On 21 Sep 2011, at 9:21, Chris S. Kimerer wrote: There was enough Board Members not to allow foot dragging! <reply> What some consider FOOT DRAGGING, is actually compliances with Federal and NY State Law, Our By Laws, Roberts Rules of order. There are constraints on the Board. Your Board must follow procedures, timetables as provided. It would not matter if 2/3 the Board did not want to follow procedures, they must be followed. The Legal Committee reviews everything, and things must follow a logical, required plan. Please read the By Laws, and Roebrts Rules of Order. > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================