Hi, this has been an interesting thread. A "little" touchy at times but educational and "interesting" nonetheless. Reminds me of the neat book I just read - it calls the dog in it a - "free thinking dog"! Personally, I think they all are, especially GSDs. Now, to have free enterprising thoughts here on what goes on at our shows is "interesting" --- TIA Norma no L ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Lynch" <blackhawkfarmsllc@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 9:40 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: SITTING FEES/Photographers Hi All, Im back from a weekend of shows and I show a lot of dogs and I use a lot of photographers. Some are great, some are not. Some do wonderful work, some will do in a pinch. After reading all those emails and about a "sitting fee"... you have to realize, you can simply NOT BUY THE PHOTOGRAPH and move on. (What do you mean - why not? Why not just refuse pics by that Photog?) I liken it to using a handler, some handler will have a "low" board but charge you for everything.. brushing, baths, etc. Some handlers charge a flat flee that includes everything, no additonal charges, not that is right/wrong or indiferent, its just how they choose to do business. And that you havent any control over. (Oh yes you do if you are the Exhibitor . Pick and choose your Handler.) A few years back, I had a Kerry blue Terrier I was showing. The dog NEVER had a good photo. The best photo he took was with my cameraphone on the table. I was billed to the tune of 176 for all of his win photos and not a single one was publishable... so I paid the photographers the money. Then I took all of the 8x10's and gave back to them and said, "I know you can do better work than this and if you cannot get a decent photo thats worth printing, then I dont want it!" (Ah, now this one is really interesting. So what happened? Have you discontiued using that Photog or has the work improved? TIA Norma no L) Mike Lynch ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================