[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: SIMPLE/ Entering multiple Futurities

  • From: "Carolyn" <marhaven@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <caggra@xxxxxxx>, <nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <caretti1@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <klite3gsd@xxxxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:40:21 -0700

Hi Jeff;     ( I am just re-sending this note to the List that I just sent 
someone in private in 
response to similar questions from someone else. )
Just a quick response because that's all I can do at the moment.
Just keep in mind two things before you worry about all these details.   

First,  the Futurity Committee can't get involved in all the "bidding wars"  
and 
"big bucks" and games that people play or who is the top handler or a Jr. 
Handler.
We are just trying to make the Futurities more 'user friendly'  and successful.

Second,  this is just an alternative that is available that we are considering. 
  
You do not have to enter two Futurities  just because you CAN.
We would like to........but we cannot solve every single problem.   <G>

In other words things don't HAVE to change for you and your handler,  but you do
"have another choice"  that is offered to you.    It really is very simple.
Thanks for you input.

(  I will also add this to Jeff:   IF all these issues are a major concern to 
you or anyone else we can 
possibly come up with a method or rule that the decision between the Futurities 
is made a short
time prior to the first one entered.  )   NO pulling the day of the first 
Futurity without 
forfeiting exhibiting in the second one entered. )   
Also added to Jeff:
It will only get as complicated as we chose to make it.    At this point we are 
just trying to make a
great alternative and choice for breeders with young dogs if things go wrong 
for a month or so like
terrible limping, shedding, change in judges,  family problems, etc...with only 
ONE Futurity a year.

It really is very simple.............

Carolyn    marhaven@jps,net
www.Marhaven.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: caggra@xxxxxxx To: nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; caretti1@xxxxxxxxxxx ; 
klite3gsd@xxxxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 
2007 11:58 AMSubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Entering multiple Futurities

These are all good reasons for considering entering multiple Futurities.?? My 
fear is that this new change will allow only the top tier or wealthy to enter 
their dogs all over the country, show up at Futurity # 1, see who their 
competition is, then go on to a different Futurity because they can.? Many 
exhibitors cannot afford this.? So, this could turn into a game that allows 
only those who can afford it, the luxury of 2nd or 3rd chances at winning 
Futurities, while those who cannot "keep up with the Jones's" will fade away 
because there is now another tool in place for them not to be able to keep up.? 
I am not saying I am totally against this idea.? If it increases entries and 
enthusiasm about Futurities then give it a try.? But if what I say above comes 
true, that is NOT in the spirit of Futurities or for attracting new people.? 

JMO...

Jeff Pyle





  -----Original Message-----
  From: Nancy Harper <nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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  Sent: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 3:25 pm
  Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Entering multiple Futurities



  Cyndi, 
  Here are a few of reasons behind the idea. 
  1) Change of Judge - it has happened including this year 
      Could be you would not show under the alternate Judge is not right for 
your 
  dog/bitch 
      Your handler might not be able to show under alternate judge. 
  2) Your Junior Puppy comes up with Pano a few weeks/days before the Futurity 
      You can wait and go to the later one
  3) Your bitch comes in Seaon, has blown coat, looks badly. 
      You can go to your second choice Futurity when she looks her best. 
  4) Provides income for Regional Club 
  5) One does not HAVE TO double enter but can if they so choose.  
  Nancy Harper 

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: caretti1@xxxxxxxxxxx 
    To: nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; klite3gsd@xxxxxxxxx ; 
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    Cc: Nancy Harper 
    Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:03 PM
    Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Entering multiple Futurities


    What is the purpose of being able to enter more than one Futurity?  

    Cyndi


      -------------- Original message -------------- 
      From: "Nancy Harper" <nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 

      > Perhaps this will also afford some new and upcoming handlers an 
  opportuntiy?? 
      > Nancy 
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "Kim McNamara" 
      > To: "Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx List" 
      > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 9:52 PM 
      > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Entering multiple Futurities 
      > 
      > Nancy asked for feedback... 
      > I like the concept of being able to enter more than one Futurity, but I 
am 

      > concerned that all the best handlers will overbook so much, that it 
could 
      > become a little chaotic. They would be right to overbook, but do they 
now 
      > need an algorithm to figure out who will actually end up showing 
where?? 
  So 
      > they can still make all of their clients happy, show the right dogs to 
the 

      > right judges at the right times????? This would definitely complicate 
      > matters.... 
      > 
      > I didn't see anybody else post any feedback, what does everyone 
think??? 
      > 
      > Kim 
      > 
      > 
      > 
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