[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Responsibility and Obligations

  • From: "Carolyn" <marhaven@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <f.fasano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Showgsd-l" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:06:56 -0700

Hi Kris;
I am trying to get Peggy to find the quote that she put on the List  from the 
R.R.O.  to see why
you and she have such different interpretations or versions.
Peggy is sick with the flu and she cannot find it and I can't find it.   I am 
hoping someone does.
have it.
Since you responded about her version as being different.......maybe you have 
it still and can 
show  us which version you are using as compared to Peggy's?
I really am not understanding that there are "different versions".
Possibly you can find Peggy's quote and version and then show us your version 
you used??

Thanks!

Carolyn    marhaven@jps,net
www.Marhaven.com
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Carolyn To: f.fasano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; sheppup@xxxxxxxxxx ; Showgsd-l 
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:02 PM
  Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Responsibility and Obligations


  Thank you Kris.
  AND..........therein lies the problem why members are not hearing from the 
Board!!
  It does not mean we were all in agreement ....nor persuaded..... nor 
controlled!
  BUT....we were informed and warned  that we could NOT under any circumstance 
break
  the confidentiality of the meeting!!!    Some of us are not happy with that 
either.......
  Carolyn    marhaven@jps,net
  www.Marhaven.com

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: frank fasano 
    To: sheppup@xxxxxxxxxx ; Showgsd-l 
    Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:44 PM
    Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Responsibility and Obligations


    Dear members it is the responsibility of the Board to effectively run the 
club, meeting deadlines 
    in the Bylaws and to follow the rules whether they are in the Bylaws or 
Roberts on issues not 
    covered by  the Bylaws- please refer to Roberts Rules regarding trials of 
members-they 
    ARE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION-    Peggy's version of Robert's is somewhat 
different than what 
    I have read.     The accused is entitled to a trial and representation by 
an attorney.  The attorney
    must be a club member.   Executive Session is kept confidential to protect 
open discussion, the 
    protection is for the accused and the society, i.e. the Club.     The 
attorney, the accused and all 
    involved can be punished for violating the confience of a closed session. 
The trial is informal, 
    allowing hearsay evidence but providing for cross examination by both 
sides.    The burden of 
    proof is that the those deliberating must have a moral conviction of the 
facts.     A vote of guilt
    requires a two thirds margin. We don't make the rules. There will be a 
notice sent to the
    members but by  the requirements of Roberts we cannot say much.    Kris

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Les Salowski" <sheppup@xxxxxxxxxx>To: "Showgsd-l" 
<showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 9:32 PMSubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: 
Responsibility and Obligations

    > It surprises the hell out of me that the AKC does not know what a fiasco
    > our board has created.  They certainly should know ................les'
    >'


    > Peggy wrote:>
    >>Is it not the obligation of the elected officers of a club to keep the
    >>members of that club advised of what they are doing?  Is it not their
    >>responsibility,
    >>individually and as a unit?
    >>Is there any reason in the world why the Board and the Officers have
    >>been conducting business in secret all year?  Could it be that when they
    >>screwed up so
    >>badly and were taken to task by so many members, they decided (or
    >>someone did) to not let us know what they were doing?
    >>
    >>I have a suggestion...and those to whom my suggestion doesn't apply know
    >>who they are:  If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen...if
    >>you are
    >>acting in the best interests of the club there is no reason to keep your
    >>actions secret.  If, on the other hand, you are lining your own pockets
    >>and telling us,
    >>in effect, to go ^&%& ourselves, then please step down...I think a
    >>couple more letters to the AKC about what the membership has had to deal
    >>with all year
    >>will bring about some kind of action from the AKC.....IT IS WRONG TO
    >>KEEP SECRETS FROM THE MEMBERSHIP and quite possibly only done to keep
    >>us from finding out that you are doing something DEAD WRONG.
    >>

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