In a message dated 11/23/2005 1:58:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx writes: Do you think that loose ligaments has any thing to do with it? could it be that as dogs get older things just are not as tight, which leads to the stomach twisting? I do think this plays a big part in it. Ginger Cleary, Rome, GA "Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." Benjamin Franklin. _http://www.rihadin.com_ (http://www.rihadin.com/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================