I had a bitch who missed three times after having three litters. All the tests/cultures done, the same as you.She also flagged and stood readily to be bred. As a last resort, I did the surgical implants (done by a reproduction specialist). She did not get pregnant and I spayed her. Pathology reports indicated that there was something wrong with her uterus but it has been so long that I don't remember exactly what the problem was except that she would never have gotten pregnant. The expense of all these missed pregnancies was horrendous not counting the false pregnancies she endured. I wouldn't do it again. Pat Castle Kennels Where Shepherds of Distinction Reign www.castlekennels.com -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shepherd Hill Kennels Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 3:59 AM To: showgsdl Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Question on progesterone Hi all I have a question for the breeders on the list. I have a (now 6 yr old) bitch, who has only ever produced 1 litter of 2 puppies at age 2. She has definite qualities that I desperately want to carry on, including structure, temperament, pigment etc., etc. Now ....... the last three matings I have done with her, she has exhibited ALL the signs of being pregnant. Ultrasounds at 5 weeks are always negative (as they were with her 1st litter), blood test at 7 weeks come up positive for pregnancy. This has happened again, except this time, we (vet and I) did not just assume the blood test was correct and did another ultrasound as well. Vet checked her thoroughly, and there are no puppies, dead or alive. My vet, who is a re-production specialist, is completely stumped. He has suggested that when she comes in again, I do surgical implants. Each season I have had a swab done to rule out infection, and I have done the progesterone testing, and done the matings according to those results. She has always 'stood' for the dog, but doesn't do the 'flagging'. My question, I guess, is two-fold. How reliable are the progesterone tests, and what experience have you had with the surgical implants. I can't really afford to do this, but will scrape up the money if it means I will get a litter from this bitch. Her litter sisters have all had litters, average between 6-12 puppies per litter. Any suggestions/ideas will be gratefully accepted. I desperately want a litter from this bitch!! I have started her on herbal hormone stabilisers, hoping this will help. Thanks!! Anita & the Furkids Tarsha - waiting at the Rainbow Bridge - gone but never forgotten www.shepherdhillkennels.com.au ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================