It has a date on it of 5/1/14. -----Original Message----- From: Lindenhill German Shepherds Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 11:48 AM To: dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Question concerning the upcoming vote and dogs entering the FSS... I'm curious is it possible to get membership reports regarding new members(names not numbers) over the past twelve months and monthly additions up to voting time? Or how up to date is the membership list on the PC website regards, M ----- Original Message ----- From: dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: "showgsd-l" <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, June 1, 2014 9:06:48 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Question concerning the upcoming vote and dogs entering the FSS... Maybe they are doing one step at a time? You would be better served to write the GSDCA Board directly and ask this. Speculation is a waste of time, IMO. AND, I am guessing the breed standard changes will NOT be the only thing on the Ballot? Will there not be other things to vote on, in the same packet????? This may be why the voting is being held off until the yearly vote is held? I could see added expense if a ballot was sent out now, with just the breed standard changes on it. Barb Hively - PA DNA. It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd -----Original Message----- From: Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: kmc <kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; fk.fasano <fk.fasano@xxxxxxxxx>; walflwr2 <walflwr2@xxxxxxx>; GSDCAOffice <GSDCAOffice@xxxxxxx>; GSDCAmembers <GSDCAmembers@xxxxxxx>; greypines <greypines@xxxxxxx> Cc: showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; lewieB <lewieB@xxxxxxx>; linnloch <linnloch@xxxxxxxxxxx>; helengleasonus <helengleasonus@xxxxxxxxx>; dwylie237 <dwylie237@xxxxxxxxxxx>; gsdchablis <gsdchablis@xxxxxxx>; hummingbird <hummingbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; ekolan1 <ekolan1@xxxxxxx>; longspeakgs <longspeakgs@xxxxxxxxxxx>; scharo1 <scharo1@xxxxxxx>; norberge <norberge@xxxxxxx>; jmoses0924 <jmoses0924@xxxxxxx> Sent: Sun, Jun 1, 2014 9:56 am Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Question concerning the upcoming vote and dogs entering the FSS... I guess the cost would be the 49 cent stamp or bulk mailing, envelopes, cost of paper ballots, hiring someone to do it and does the GSDCA not need a Tabulating Agent? I do not know how many members there are but that would determine this. Why was there not a proposal for the members to vote on for AKC to approve FSS for those that what the White Shepherd breed separation? It seems this would be a fair vote so both sides to decide once and for all know to see what the majority of members want. It seems one sided for the white GSD clubs after in the past the GSDCA got the letter from the AWSA voted on it to approved it and then rescinded it. The UKC allows white GSDs to show with the GSDs and has the separation breed for the White Shepherd why does AKC & GSDCA not want to do the same? Theresa On Sat, 5/31/14, Barb Hively> wrote: I, myself, would like to know what EXPENSE the GSDCA paying for the "proposed" standard change? Since no "special" ballot is going out, there really isn't any additional expense for the membership vote? The GSDCA would be sending out a ballot anyways, so I am not understanding all of the expense everyone keeps mentioning. Just wondering. Barb Hively - PA DNA. It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd -----Original Message----- From: Karen M. Carloni <kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sat, May 31, 2014 8:42 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Question concerning the upcoming vote and dogs entering the FSS... Dear GSDCA Board, I've got a quick question for any of you who might care to respond... Can any of you explain to me why the Biewer (pronounced Bee-Va) Terrier -- a "breed" that is fairly well accepted as being nothing more than a tricolor Yorkshire Terrier and is *NOT* currently recognized by the FCI has now gained acceptance into the AKC FSS, but the White Swiss Shepherd (BBS), a breed that *IS* fully recognized both by FCI and internationally -- but not by our parent club, apparently -- is not acceptable into the FSS? Can any of you kindly explain why our AKC delegate apparently wants registered WSS/BBS imported into this country to be added to the AKC GERMAN SHEPHERD stud book and gene pool instead of allowing them to be used to help found the White Swiss Shepherd breed with AKC? Finally, if DNA is so important to this decision, can anyone explain why there is a YouTube video floating around that shows an AKC Champion Amstaff being tested and the test results coming back stating the dog is mostly Border collie!? Are AKC pedigrees *that* far wrong that a Champion dog of one breed DNAs as a totally different one? Maybe I'm stupid, but I am just not 'getting' this. One would think that, if our club is going to go through the trouble and expense of doing a vote on a possible Standard change, that it would also like to settle this 'white' issue once and for all. Is there any reason why a question could not be added to the ballot -- or an additional ballot be included with the Standard change ballot -- asking the membership whether or not it would support allowing any owners of white GSDs who desire to do so, to use their dogs to help found and establish a separate breed (to be named later) with the AKC Foundation Stock Service? Sincerely seeking answers, I am Karen M Carloni GSDCA regular member in good standing ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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