[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Question concerning the upcoming vote and dogs entering the FSS...

  • From: "Pam Stoesser" <pkstoesser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 12:28:46 -0500

It has a date on it of 5/1/14.

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From: Lindenhill German Shepherds
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 11:48 AM
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Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Question concerning the upcoming vote and dogs 
entering the FSS...

I'm curious is it possible to get membership reports regarding new 
members(names not numbers) over the past twelve months and monthly additions 
up to voting time?
Or how up to date is the membership list on the PC website

regards,

M

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Sent: Sunday, June 1, 2014 9:06:48 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Question concerning the upcoming vote and dogs 
entering the FSS...

Maybe they are doing one step at a time? You would be better served to write 
the GSDCA Board directly and ask this. Speculation is a waste of time, IMO.

AND, I am guessing the breed standard changes will NOT be the only thing on 
the Ballot? Will there not be other things to vote on, in the same 
packet????? This may be why the voting is being held off until the yearly 
vote is held? I could see added expense if a ballot was sent out now, with 
just the breed standard changes on it.





Barb Hively - PA
DNA. It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd



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Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Question concerning the upcoming vote and dogs 
entering the FSS...


I guess the cost would be the 49 cent stamp or bulk mailing, envelopes, cost 
of
paper ballots, hiring
someone to do it and does the GSDCA not need a Tabulating Agent? I do not 
know
how many
members there are but that would determine this.

Why was there not a proposal for the members to vote on for AKC to approve 
FSS
for
those that what the White Shepherd breed separation? It seems this would be 
a
fair vote so both sides to decide once
and for all know to see what the majority of members want. It seems one 
sided
for the white GSD clubs after in the past
the GSDCA got the letter from the AWSA voted on it to approved it and then
rescinded it. The UKC allows white GSDs to
show with the GSDs and has the separation breed for the White Shepherd why 
does
AKC & GSDCA not want to do the same?

Theresa

On Sat, 5/31/14, Barb Hively> wrote:

I, myself,
would like to know what EXPENSE the GSDCA paying for the
"proposed" standard change? Since no
"special" ballot is going out, there really
isn't any additional expense for the membership
vote? The GSDCA would be sending out a ballot
anyways, so I am not understanding all of the expense
everyone keeps mentioning.


Just wondering.


Barb Hively -
PA
DNA. It's what makes a white, a
German Shepherd



-----Original Message----- 
From: Karen M. Carloni <kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Sent: Sat, May 31, 2014 8:42 pm
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Question concerning the
upcoming vote and dogs entering the FSS...


Dear GSDCA
Board,

I've got a quick
question for any of you who might care to
respond...

Can
any of you explain to me why the Biewer (pronounced
Bee-Va) Terrier -- a "breed" that is
fairly well accepted
as being nothing more
than a tricolor Yorkshire Terrier
and is
*NOT* currently recognized by the FCI has now
gained acceptance into the AKC FSS, but the
White Swiss
Shepherd (BBS), a breed that
*IS* fully recognized both by
FCI and
internationally -- but not by our parent club,
apparently -- is not acceptable into the
FSS?

Can any of you kindly
explain why our AKC delegate
apparently
wants registered WSS/BBS imported into this
country to be added to the AKC GERMAN SHEPHERD
stud book
and gene pool instead of allowing
them to be used to help
found the White
Swiss Shepherd breed with AKC?

Finally, if DNA is so important to this
decision, can
anyone explain why there is a
YouTube video floating
around that shows an
AKC Champion Amstaff being tested and
the
test results coming back stating the dog is mostly
Border collie!? Are AKC pedigrees *that* far
wrong that a
Champion dog of one breed DNAs
as a totally different one?

Maybe I'm stupid, but I am just not
'getting' this.

One
would think that, if our club is going to go through
the trouble and expense of doing a vote on a
possible
Standard change, that it would also
like to settle this
'white' issue
once and for all. Is there any reason why a
question could not be added to the ballot -- or
an
additional ballot be included with the
Standard change
ballot -- asking the
membership whether or not it would
support
allowing any owners of white GSDs who desire to do
so, to use their dogs to help found and
establish a
separate breed (to be named
later) with the AKC Foundation
Stock
Service?

Sincerely seeking
answers, I am

Karen M
Carloni
GSDCA regular member in good
standing



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