I agree with using puppy food, but I use it on all my show dogs, or dogs that need to gain weight, and pregnant bitches all the way through. The most I have ever used in protein is 28%. 30 is cat food and I have always heard it is too rich. But how big a difference can 2% really make? The best gage is your Amber. Does she like it? Is her weight good for her age and time of her cycle? Puppies do need more to grow, to be sure, but I have always used between 26 and 28% protein for all but my nuetered dogs. They get the 21% or lower if I can find it. I am currently using Nurto's Natual Choice. Liddy, due end of Feb is on the large breed puppy lamb and rice, along with Kit, who needs to gain a good deal still. This food was selected because it meets the allergy requirements they both have. Dexter is on the same brand adult formula with chicken and rice, he seems to be allergic to lamb, but the other two are allergic to chicken. I love dogs!!!!!!! sheila Barbara Galasso <uwish@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi: I feed my "Amber" Nutro Natural Chicken, Rice, Oatmeal with her giblets, chicken livers and hearts. This dry food has a protein level of 21%. The Puppy formula I believe is 26%. They also make a holistic brand which contains chicken, lamb and salmon called Ultra. I was thinking of trying that one, but it lists it's protein level at 30%. Isn't this very high for our GSD's? Amber will be bred in about another week for her first time. Some breeders told me they switch their bitches to a puppy grain during the last few weeks of their pregnancy because of the higher protein. What are your feelings about this? Is anyone using the Ultra formula with the 30% protein? What do you think the highest protein level should be to feed our adults normally (and then when they're bred) and the highest protein level to feed puppies? Thanks, Barbara ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ Sheila of Miami Mernydex GSD's Loving Obedience Dog Training --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? With a free 1 GB, there's more in store with Yahoo! Mail. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================