Not exactly. If a class animal goes Best of Breed, ALL specials are counted...and added to the numbers of the breed winner's sex. If a class animal gets Best Opposite over a special of that same sex, THEN only the one or ones of its sex are counted and added to it's points... Folks, this stuff is in the AKC rulebook and in the front of every all breed catalog...it should be in the front of every specialty catalog too, altho I know it isn't. Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa" <melanagsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:27 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Point Question > > Thank you for confirming what I shared previously. A defeated special is > added to the count of it's OWN sex. > > > Melissa > www.melanashepherds.com >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <mlgray@xxxxxxxx> >> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 11:33 PM >> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Point Question >> >> >>> >>> This was out of the AKC Rules applying to dog shows. Thanks, learned >>> something new again today. >>> >>> Mike Gray >>> >>> If the dog designated Winners Dog or Winners Bitch is also awarded >>> Best of Breed or Variety, the dogs of both sexes that have been entered >>> for >>> Best of Breed or Variety competition and that have been defeated in such >>> competition, shall be counted in addition to the dogs that competed in >>> the >>> regular classes for its sex in calculating championship points. > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or > FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the > original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL > BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1505 - Release Date: 6/16/2008 7:20 AM ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================