Hey Jess...your post brought up an observation and a pet peeve...anybody else but me notice the trend lately that the dogs are too thin???? Is "thin" taking the place of "condition"???? I want a dog that is carrying a bit of muscle. Now, you'll never get that if they are put in a 6 x 10 run all day and/or crated a bunch. So is the next best thing keeping them too thin? I ask because this past heat wave I saw more than a few dogs not handle it well at all. Pet peeve; these dogs are supposed to be able to go out and work a full day. I've been to sheep herding trials in July and we didn't walk around with spray bottles and cool coats! Now, I'm all for keeping a dog comfortable, but when a little heat does them in, you have to wonder... Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds In a message dated 6/17/2008 9:35:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: If a dog is coordinated, they should be able to handle any size ring easily... This might also mean that one might have to CONDITION their dogs.. **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================