I agree with you on the education part, that is where the breed clubs and the AKC should come into play. I know I have done educational seminars at my son's private school, bringing not only my shepherds and thier achievments but actually brought a whole litter of pups into his school for their annual pet week. But then again I am only one person many others need to get involved in educated the public on responsible dog ownership. I applaude those that do, and want to send a message to others to get involved. We are in danger of more BSL, and I know for one I don't want to have to hide my dogs. RivendellP <rivendellp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I lived in the Monbello neighborhood in Denver for 16 years. There are definitely allot of Pit Bulls in that neighborhood, the majority of them are owned by gang members and want to be gang members. They train the dogs to fight and chain them to trees or tires to bring out the aggression. Paul adds... No doubt these are irresponsible owners whose dogs suffer from their actions. That said...BSL is not or will ever be the right solution. Education is the correct solution...on every level. You will never see HSUS, PETA, or DDAL pushing for said education as it is counter productive to their agenda. The conditions you describe in Denver, and other towns around the country, adds fuel to their fires and generates the kind of thinking that makes BSL sound credible when it is not. It's going to be left to us...the responsible pet owners...to negate their blather and educate a public in sad need of education. This is a task that begins from the top and trickles down. We must start with the Legislators in our States to introduce "Responsible Pet Ownership 101" into our schools. We need contact to do this...do any of you have a relationship with such a person? Legislator, School Administrator, or other influential kind of person? Paul Luanne Crinklaw Silvermoon German Shepherds Mesa, AZ Home of Chenoa's Kindred Spirit, and Chenoa's Great Adventure ( waiting at the bridge ) --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================