[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Pano or Lyme/ long...
- From: "Willimar" <willimar@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 10:21:13 -0400
We too have had first hand experience with RMSF and Ehrlichia Equi and also
Ehrilichiosis with 3 different dogs last year. The first one we noticed
sypmtoms with was a younger dog (12 months) old... It can be very
devestating. The first vet who saw the first dog swore he must of been
poisoned and gave him vitmain K and I kept insisting for a tick titer to be
done. She ran all the blood work and organ functions (no tick test yet) ..
all was coming back normal except RBC which was a little low.. she finally
after a few hours consulted a specialist who said test for Tick borne
illnesses ASAP which is what we wanted in the first place. Next the 2 other
dogs were experiencing similar syptoms.. One of them was our Sel Ch Axel
who's first symptom was lameness.. and then Ch. Reggie who had joint
swelling. It progressed to loss of appitie and vomiting along with diarrhea
in one of the dogs. All were put on Doxi right away.. 2 of them pred for the
swelling. Despite aggressive tx we lost the youngest dog. The other 2 are
doing well now.. Axel's lameness comes and goes.. The older dogs did respond
well to their tx.... They were on Doxi 2 different times.. 6 and 8 weeks
each time. To this day we have never seen one tick on the dogs or in the
yard. We keep everything cut down and always have. At the time they started
displaying symtoms we were using K9 Advantix. We have switched to Frontline
but also spray Bronco around the kennels and on the dogs before they run out
back. It definitly is an eye opening experience. Two dogs were chronic (the
young dog, Malcolm) and Axel.
If you suspect a tick borne illness.. insist and don't let up until it is
done..
Chris
Willimar Kennels
Home of:
Am Ch./2x Sel. Can. Ch. Willimar's Olivia v ShadowValley,TC,OFA "Livy"
Select Am Ch/Can Ch/UKC Ch. Willimar's GunsNRoses ShadowValley,TC,OFA "Axel"
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AKC Pointed
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From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <TISHW@xxxxxxx>; <CMILL189@xxxxxxx>; <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>;
<hollywoods@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 10:11 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Pano or Lyme/ long...
> Living in an area where Lymes disease and Erlichiosis is prevelant and
> having had a dog
> that had both Lymes and Erlichia I can tell you that if left undetected it
> can be devastating
> to the dog.
> The key to finding out about Lymes is that the test for Lymes almost
> always comes up
> negative when they do indeed have Lymes. We have seen that over and
> over in our area
> with people and with dogs.
> We lost BOSS to Erlichia and our experience was an eye opener. I had
> known at least
> 6 people in our area with Lymes and several dogs. OFTEN on the people
> when the tests
> came up negative and I showed them the symptoms for Lymes......( vague
> flu-like symptoms )
> a couple of them had smart Drs. that opted to treat them for Lymes anyway
> and they were
> helped. One who was not treated for a few years ended up extremely
> arthritic and it ruined
> his career as a Coach. The longer they go untreated the more
> devastating the results.
> With BOSS I knew all the symptoms....I knew he must have Lymes and we ran
> the tests on him
> twice.....about 8 months or more apart. Finally when he was severely
> lame and I could feel
> him 'quiver' when he sat next to me......we had our Vet X-ray him and he
> said he had severe
> arthritis in his joints. ( that's what Lymes does ) I reminded him he
> was OFA both ends and
> had no problems and requested the FULL TICKSOLOGY test just as I had been
> advised just
> before this by Mary Ellen Kish after I had called her for help and
> advice.
> When the results came back......our Vet was stunned to find out BOSS had
> Lymes AND
> Erlichiosis!!!! Mary Ellen Kish had helped me a lot when I called her
> as she went through
> almost an identical experience with HONKY TONK MAN. She had experienced
> and learned
> it all and advised us to get the three way test, as then, and ONLY then,
> can you be sure of the
> negative reading. This test is for Lymes, Erhlichiosis and Rocky Mt.
> Spotted Fever....it is
> not cheap.....but worth it. I don't know if it works with people....but
> it does with dogs. I will
> never waste the time or money on just the test for Lymes again.
> PS......BOSS had been on Frontline all the time......for fleas and ticks.
>
> Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.Marhaven.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: TISHW@xxxxxxx To: CMILL189@xxxxxxx ; Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx ;
> hollywoods@xxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 6:19 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Pano or
> Lyme
>
>
>
> In a message dated 5/18/2008 7:36:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, CMILL189
> writes: Does anyone know a site where it says how long before the pup can
> show
> symptoms?
>
>
>
>
> Not off hand and the person who replied that it takes longer might be
> right.
> However, my husband got lymes when we were at Lake Anna one year. We
> were
> home in New Mexico less than 2 weeks and he had the classic bull's eye
> thing.
> Funny part of that was that when he went to the Dr. the Dr. had to go
> look
> it up on the internet. Not much lyme disease in dry old NM. Our dogs
> are
> now on Frontline during the summer months since we are back in VA.
>
> Tish
>
>
>
>
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