===================== From: grnram415@xxxxxxx Date: 2007/03/10 Sat PM 07:28:49 CST To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] OT-Schutzhund Well, I attended my first Schutzhund training today with my Dutch shepherd. They sure make a day out of it. I am exhausted and sunburned. Thank you California desert, lol! It was a very interesting experience. Becasue of the trial last weekend, only about 10 people showed up. So, lots of individual attention. Here is what I learned. The reason I feel my American show line GSD's could not do this is because they are big, spoiled babies. Well, guess what? So is my Dutchie. This crazy, high drive dog got serious Mommyitis. Now, she is only 18mos old and no prior exposure. But, the message was loud and clear. My dogs are spoiled brats, LOL! This is my fault, not the dogs's. Of the dogs I have, I never expected her to be a total Momma's girl. The other part of the problem is that I am TOO Alpha. (According to the trainer) She was afraid to do anything wrong. Hmmmm. I am not going to say that I don't want my dogs to bond with me. I do. Makes it easier in the show ring. But, maybe they are too bonded. Is that possible? The Dutchie did start to come around a bit towards the end with tons of praise. I will have to re-evaluate my training and see if I really am too strict with them. I enjoy having well-behaved dogs but maybe they need to have just a bit less structure. Is that possible? All you trainers out there, tell me what you think. Laura Thomas Actually Laura, The woman who was supposed to be my mentor, went from American lines (did well with 2 of her females and 1 male), Jimmy Moses actually leased her Ch Hollow Hill's Sierra v Cherpa (Dam of my 7 yr old)and they got Kaleef's Blondie and Kaleef's Valle out of that leasing. Anyway, she went with full German Showline dogs many years ago. She had told me...that even rearing/training them from pups early on, is different than training the average dog. They are trained to instill the drive, as most are trained to "calm it down"...so to say. Too much stucture, too much strict training, and the pup will loose it's drive. Just thought I'd let ya know what I was told. So you basically asnwered yourself....yes Schutzhund dogs are far less "structured". Not saying they are not trained at all, ill mannered dogs.....just they are trained from a different way from a young pup. Kris Kudel Kamelot Shepherds UPDATED http://mysite.verizon.net/krisbob1/ GSDCA member ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================