Great post Gary. In dogs , pretty is, isn't necessarily as pretty does. Type embodies far more than fluffy and pretty. What has happened to masculinity?...it's lack was glaring at the National. Also there seemed to be an epidemic of rolling , undulating movement over the croup, loin and back of MANY dogs and bitches....and accompanied by dragging insteps, or "lizard-like" movement in the rear. Yeah, a lot of movement at the Nationals...but that white wall showed crystal clear...it was in the wrong places in many instances. Love to see an off lead portion for the Specials. Love to see a DEMAND for loose lead for every dog, for at least down the long wall. Walking to a point, not to abusive amounts of time is great. Afterall, our dogs are designed to also guide the blind, be therapy dogs, and herding isn't always at a trot I don't know if we are seeing dogshows lately or quarter horse races, because I'll tell you...the GSDs being shown these days are contenders with a AAA horse at the 1/4 mile. lol. . A walk really screams when a middle piece is poor, or the reach and drive is lacking. It is not just a trotting breed, it is a WORKING breed. Temperament? Well that goes to my first sentence...pretty is as.....? I have seen pretty, or sort of pretty with abominable temperament, from cowardly to sharp-shy (I'll get you before you get me) Without solid temperament (from gentle to really tough and all in between) the GSD isn't worth feeding. Gary knows from whence he speaks. His dogs are some of the few of the great long striding , movers.... real power, real hard toplines, reach, drive, and got front? In spades. Many among us have grown weary of the short necked , short crouped "pitty patters" ,that stab at the ground rather than extend both ends, with ironically often the longest part of the anatomy being egregious hocks (that generally kick up on a loose lead)...The little dogs that are fluffy and often not necessarily even pretty....which is so ironic , since initially that was what we were told for so long.."Well at least they are pretty" and "it is what the public wants" .I find no beauty in lack of correct structure and flagrant failure in motion, and often temperament. Give me a dog that can work, at any speed, in any climate. Give me a male that looks and moves like a male, whom I don't need to check to see if there are testicles...give me flowng lines from wither to tailhead and hock. Give me a tough SOB or a kind and gentle guide dog...do not entertain the coward. The dogs about whom Gary speaks exist, they are out there..here and there, there lines are WELL known...yet somehow, so many succumbed to a political machine and trend .....what a loss. What a shame...and I fear the impact on the breed, both now, and in years to come. Just my opinion, for whatever that is worth. Kathy Tank ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================