Thank you Kathy....great post! There have always been fads from the extreme rears of by-gone years to the short legs and almost square dogs of the present.....And the breeders always recognize it when it becomes a problem (well at least the wise ones do). Many of the dogs of the past needed to be shortened up in the middle piece...so what we have to do is make sure we don't go overboard in the opposite direction (as has happened). We do have some GREAT judges... who are able to see through the facade of tight leads and strung up dogs. We see them put up class winners that are moving that way and say.... look he/she is approving it too... when in fact, all he/she did was to put up the best of what was presented to him/her... sometimes judges put up the best of the worst so to speak....But the judges are the ones who actually promote or eventually put an end to the fads. I have confidence that the good judges we have will correct these problems too. I hear out great judges saying they are SICK of the short legs... rumbling movement over extremely short middle pieces and croups... and fluffy dogs with short necks that look like bitches in the headpiece. In the end they will be the people to help make a difference. All conscientious breeders actually have the best interests of the breed at heart. We can and will turn this around.... then we'll be talking in 10 years about the new fad we need to correct... LOL A few of us were entrusted (through an unfortunate series of events and tragedies) with much of what is left of a great legacy. Through tragedy, I became custodian of some great animals. I will care for them the best that I can and do my best to perpetuate correct dogs that can move and not be influenced by fads and what is winning at the moment. It is easy to fall into (we all want to win) and hard to get out of... Gary **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================