oh geez, Mo's story reminds me of a mess I had 20 years ago. I had two males in obedience. Once Shadow was done competing I took him to the car (I said it was years ago <G>). It was a winter day but not too cold so he was comfy on the nice white leather seats. I finished up competing with the second boy and went out to find it had snowed quite a bit. I brushed off the car and my first hint something was wrong was a poop smear on the window.. He'd had one heck of a blow out, had no where to go so he kept hopping from the back to the front seats. I had poop smeared on the roof, moon roof, windows, all over the leather seats. God what a mess. I cleaned my seat off the best I could. Gagging, I drove directly to the car wash hoping no one would stop me.. I still remember the expression on the second male as he was hunker'd down on the floorboard, ears to the side of his head, offended by what he'd endured..<G> I had to clean the car with a toothbrush to get all the leather seams clean. We all got bathes and weren't to much worse for the wear.. funny how you remember even those times with fondness, may they RIP..<G> Brenda Banister Crago _www.midnightsunshepherds.com_ (http://www.midnightsunshepherds.com/) Anchorage Alaska ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================