We have to pursue good temperament. Otherwise, we can't sell puppies to the public. Joan F. Fox http://campaignergsds.netfirms.com 440-543-9165 440-759-4119 -------Original Message------- From: LorienGSD@xxxxxxx Date: 11/19/04 20:52:07 To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Need for Temperament Evaluations In a message dated 11/19/04 5:26:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, wmj1944@yahoo com writes: Perhaps I'm missing something, but I have seen very little" public perception" of temperament problems in GSD's, either where I live, or at the dog shows I've gone to. <snip> Plainly, we are doing something right, temperament tests or not, and whatever it is, we need to keep it up. YES! Thank you, Steve. My point too! Breeders and judges have improved GSD temperament over several decades, and the new emphasis on the rote and time-consuming "temperament test" is unnecessary. Twyla Miner Lorien GSD http://www.geocities.com/loriengsd/