I heard by using Purina, no one else could sponsor us. I doubt Purina would be allowed to be involved. Evan L.Ginsburg _Click here: 2014 GSDCA NATIONAL - THE UNOFFICAL NATIONAL SITE_ (http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/) _Click here: GSD Youth Recognition Fund_ (http://www.dogshowjuniors.com/jindex.html) Click here: Welcome to Asgard's German Shepherds In a message dated 10/27/2014 6:56:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Evan, I don't know exactly what Purina cost but the old list of figures I have for Purina indicates around $7000.00 as the minimum. The $12,500 is probably the figure for the National sponsorship contract we have with Purina. They support our National and the Futurity system every year. Tish In a message dated 10/27/2014 8:02:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: I have gotten so many answers. I was told the grounds were free. Then I was told we paid only $7,000. Then I was told the club was given $12,500 from Purina. I am sure there is an answer, and some board member knows. It is interesting, but not essential that I know. But, it would be nice to have an official response. Evan -----Original Message----- From: Cyndi Flautt <caretti1@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: Showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 3:55 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Fwd: Re: 'National Third try Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Cyndi Flautt <caretti1@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: October 27, 2014 at 5:50:10 PM CDT > To: "dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: 'National > > I was told by a board member that the facility was free and that Purina also gave us a grant of a little over $12,000. Something like $12,250 I think. > Cyndi > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > >> On Oct 27, 2014, at 4:29 PM, "Evan Ginsburg" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "elg440@xxxxxxx" for DMARC) wrote: >> >> If that is the case, we are charged $7,000, that would be great. I hope a board member would confirm that. I could not find it in the minutes. >> >> I do know I was told that Purina would not charge us, and that is why we used them for three years. It is a great location with a few problems with transportation. >> >> I know, since I was on the board, that we used to pay $20,000 a year or more to put on a national, but we made enough to cover that. I remember one year they said the sod was too much, so they were not going with sod. I arranged to get it donated, but then they needed it taken up for free. We didn't have sod that year. >> >> It is just important for the club to know what is being spent on with our money. I personally don't care. If indeed the club obtains Purina for $7,000 a year, that is a bargain. There are a lot of problems with the West Coast going to St. Louis, but if the club can profit $13,000 each year, I am in favor of it. >> >> Maybe a board member, other than the two who told me they didn't know the fees, can respond. >> >> Evan >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Chris S. Kimerer <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: The List <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 12:57 pm >> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: 'National >> >> >> Hi EvanI was actually at the board meeting when this was discussed and voted on >> and Frank presented an extensive financial study the Finance Committee had >> worked up breaking down the costs of prospective Venues and Purina. With being >> able to do almost all of the major aspects of our National right on site at no >> additional costs and one base price (which I don't recall the actual figure now, >> but if memory serves me right, I believe it was under $7K) the savings were >> astonishing. So, there was always going to be a charge, but the yearly cost was >> going to be set in place for 3 years in a row, with no increase, thus making the >> budget easier to project regarding the National. In years past, there were many >> times when there were last minute unforeseen expenses, sometimes running into >> the thousands, making it very hard to stay in budget and on target. With this 3 >> year contract and the annual savings to the club, hopefully we can re-coup the >> abominable losses the Wor >> king Dog Trial cost the GSDCA. Chris Chris S. KimererHillside-Tanbark >> Kennels www.tanbarkgsd.com "where good bloodlines never die" >> >> From: Evan Ginsburg <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 12:33 PM >> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: 'National' Road Warriors...... <G> ===========================================================================P OST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. 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