[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: NEW STUD DOGS to CT PVT

  • From: WyMarGSD2@xxxxxxx
  • To: hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Santanagsd1954@xxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:07:57 EST

In a message dated 12/15/2004 4:44:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> Most who peddle import lines have
> no true dog experience..they by 2 dogs from import lines..and breed
> them...sounds like back yard breeders to me.. so please do not try to tell
> me this is not big business...if the bottom fell out of the import
> market..you would see these so called breeders"who want to better the
> breed" baling out like rats leaving a sinking ships

first i meant to post this to barb privately  lol   but since its here i am 
happy to explain

who is the person who defines "true dog experience"  lets start there.

<<<<<yes..this is exactly what it means...and did you buy this bitch with a
title..or take her from scratch, put all the hours into her training and
put the SchH 3 on her...how does one know about training...when one buys
dogs with titles that someone else has done? I don't get it...to me that is
like buying finished dogs..and calling yourself a breeder of champions,
when really your just a buyer of champions..here is another question..in a
litter of show potential puppies...maybe only one or 2 meets with
potential..the rest are pets...in an import litter..I am certain that not
every puppy has the aptitude for schutzhund..and most all don't have the
conformation for the show ring...how do the breeders in this country using
import lines decern which are pet when almost the whole litter looks like
pets? also...since when does breeding to titled parents guarantee the
results of the puppies.>>>>>.

Second  yes she was purchased as is... i researched her lines back and forth, 
i have known the working ability in her lines and watched the generations 
scores etc... i know the breeder and she told me all about her, the owners have 
had her since she was 4 months old so i know exaclty what went into her for the 
passed 4 years.   Now i get to work with this... with her puppies, i will be 
HOT and hopefully kick A$$ with them  :)         see a puppy is a crap shoot 
as you know...  i would rather start from scratch with a puppy I CREATED... at 
least i know what is behind the puppy.    Christine, you have to start 
somewhere.. and for those who have lost what they were looking for HAVE to 
start 
over...  we dont have a breed warden, well some think they are i think... but 
who 
in the Am Bred lines is the person to say who is a "breeder" and who is "high 
quality" and who isnt?   you may not mean to sound "above" me and others with 
only 5 yrs or less in the breed, but you are appearing to be a little ... how 
can i say it respectfully...  

<<<<how does one know about training...when one buys
dogs with titles that someone else has done? I don't get it...to me that is
like buying finished dogs..and calling yourself a breeder of champions,
when really your just a buyer of champions>>>>

what is the difference with someone having to start all over, with a new 
puppy they bought or a new puppy they bred from a bitch that was already 
titled?? 
i dont understand what you are getting at.  just because someone has champion 
dogs does not mean they are the Walter Martins of the USA.    A good breeder 
is an open minded breeder, imo, and a non judgement breeder, imo.

<<<<how does one know about training...when one buys
dogs with titles that someone else has done?>>>>>>

One trains their American dog with top notch trainers, in my instance  lol   
one learns with their titled dog because they STILL WORK THEM.  just because a 
dog has a SchH3 doesnt mean they go lay on the couch and eat bon bons the 
rest of their life. they still train at  least once a week... as they are going 
to be going for their VA ratings and they need to pass the protection phase to 
get into the Working Class.

sorry this is getting long will hilight in another email  

Dawnmarie

  


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