Yep, the first time I saw it was in Perry many years ago. The dog entered the Specials ring the night before to 'practice' with Michael Sherman. He took about four good strides then kicked into 'overdrive'. His topline levelled out, his head dropped in line, his center of gravity dropped about four inches and EVERYTHING opened up - front and rear. Other handlers stopped working their own dogs to watch this guy TAKE the big ring. No dog is perfect and each has their own faults but there was nothing that could touch this guy when he really wanted to go. The dog was Ch Caralands Sword V Lebarland, affectionately known as "Cutter' to those who loved him. What a moving machine! I didn't own him, didn't breed him, never judged him and don't have any of his progeny - so I have nothing to gain by talking about him other than to say that, as a judge he defined the 'flying trot' for me in one pass and affected the way I will look at movement forever. Suzanne www.tsalishepherds.com Home of Ch Cookie HT PT RN TC CGC, Ch Flair, BIS/BISS Ch Yancy HIC HT PT RA CD TC CGC BH, Ch Flash, Mousser (13 points/1 mjr), Tess [150 PLUS ROM points/40 ATAA points], and Lil' Miss Gilli RN[Mjr Res Winner]! Website updated 08/06 there is "floating" and there is "driving". If I'm interpreting > Jim's post correctly, he's missing the "driving". > > I've had both. "Floating" is very, very pretty. "Driving" is powerful, IMO > correct, and, sadly IME sometimes overlooked in favor of "pretty". Driving > is rather easy to spot. A dog will drop their head and their center of > gravity will move forward as the energy expends from the rear. > > Kathy ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================