For once I agree with Evan! I think..... haha Many folks barely have time to do one venue, let alone multiple. And what would Performance people say if suddenly it were required their dogs win a point or a major reserve before competiting in certain events? It works both ways.... Instead of forcing there should be gentle & respectful encouragement and education between venues. Jeff Pyle Windfall -----Original Message----- From: ELG440@xxxxxxx To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sat, Mar 12, 2011 7:54 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] More liberals and less conservatives In a message dated 3/12/2011 10:26:13 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, rockenstein@xxxxxxxxx writes: ...if I had my way, a dog would ave to have at least the first level of a performance/working title to be hown n BOB at our National. There is a basis for this conclusion in research. It s not just my personal preference/opinion. or some reason the working people want us to take on their passions, but hey never want to take on ours. No one is saying to get a herding degree ou have to have a point, or to get a obedience title you have to have a ajor at a conformation show. he few working dog enthusiasts who want a special class for them in the onformation shows should be more tolerant and understand there are some of s who just plain don't want to exert our wills on our dogs and force them o perform for our enjoyment. say that as sarcasm. Anything you want to do to enjoy your dog is all ood. Just remember, what you want, may not be what others want. They should ot tell you what to do, and you should not tell them what to do. f you want to have a special class for performance dogs, let's have a pecial performance event for champions only. ow about a Supreme Temperament Test. ot that there is anything wrong with that. van L. Ginsburg sgard German Shepherds ttp://www.asgardgsd.com/ here Type Movement and Temperament come together =========================================================================== OST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original uthor and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind re permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the howgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its dministrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any ost. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER F ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL ARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A IOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html ATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================