I am in total agreement with you, Evan. I know my conformation dog is capable of an obedience title. I just don't care to do it anymore, I used to and was good at it too. Are all performance dogs capable of getting an award in the conformation ring???? I'm just saying..... If you have ever watched a BOB class, you know that these dogs are performing...holy cow, they are loving it!!!! We have also been known for our performances outside the ring, as well. Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: <ELG440@xxxxxxx> To: <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:54 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] More liberals and less conservatives In a message dated 3/12/2011 10:26:13 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx writes: ....if I had my way, a dog would have to have at least the first level of a performance/working title to be shown in BOB at our National. There is a basis for this conclusion in research. It is not just my personal preference/opinion. For some reason the working people want us to take on their passions, but they never want to take on ours. No one is saying to get a herding degree you have to have a point, or to get a obedience title you have to have a major at a conformation show. The few working dog enthusiasts who want a special class for them in the conformation shows should be more tolerant and understand there are some of us who just plain don't want to exert our wills on our dogs and force them to perform for our enjoyment. I say that as sarcasm. Anything you want to do to enjoy your dog is all good. Just remember, what you want, may not be what others want. They should not tell you what to do, and you should not tell them what to do. If you want to have a special class for performance dogs, let's have a special performance event for champions only. How about a Supreme Temperament Test. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan L. Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================