[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: L.S 's Version of the Standard......... Sorry it is LONG
- From: "Iza Kabuska" <iza10@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <workingdawgs@xxxxxxxxx>, <Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 07:59:32 -0500
OK, and how about having a CH before it can have a CD ? There are many =
many champion dogs out there that undoubtedly can earn a CD, but how =
many CD dogs can attain their Championship ??? LOL - not that many - IN =
MY OPINION judging from what I've been seeing at shows for LO ! these =
many years - talk about public image - how about insisting that a dog =
LOOK like a well-bred German Shepherd Dog should look like before you go =
putting obedience titles on him ! I have seen the dogs that are at my =
local specialty club in the obedience classes and I have thought: dear =
god, where did they get these dogs ??
Iza Kabuska
http://www.karizmashepherds.com
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From: "Michelle Crawford" <workingdawgs@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 2:06 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: L.S 's Version of the Standard......... Sorry =
it is LONG
> In my opinion, a GSD is a GSD is a GSD. This breed does have a =
purpose other than flying around a show ring. If a dog cannot do the job =
it was originally bred to do, it has lost something that we are =
responsible for recapturing. I am saying that all GSD's regardless of =
breeding should be able to do a full day's work tending sheep and being =
an all around farm dog, which includes not only tending sheep, but =
protecting the farm from unwelcome intruders and being a companion for =
the family. At the very least, I think that the public image of the =
American bred GSD's could be improved by more obedience titles on these =
GV's and select dogs, and not just a CGN.
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> Consider this: if your family doctor was out surfing and hit his/her =
head on some rocks causing amnesia, would you still feel comfortable =
going to the person who you called doctor even though they were not =
tested for knowledge after the amnesia? Before anyone jumps on my head, =
I know this is an extremely loose comparison, but give me my freedom of =
speech. This is not political or Amer vs Ger, or anything other than my =
opinion, for what it is worth. So give me a couple minutes of your time =
without judgement, and try to apply what I wrote above to the German =
Shepherd Dog!
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> Also, in my opinion, the SV standard has one thing that we lack both =
in Canada and the United States.... all dogs in Germany must have a =
working title before it is allowed to be bred. I think that if we =
adopted something similar, for example the dog having to earn a CD =
before being named a CH, it would also help to raise the public image of =
the breed. And in this day and age of BSL, we need to have a very high =
public image! Perhaps it would help weed out the very few weak =
temperament individuals from the breeding program.
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> Anyways, I am sorry this is such a long post, but please keep in mind =
that it is my opinion and that is something that everyone has a right to =
express!
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> Michelle
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> OH, and if I offended anyone, I am sorry you were offended by my =
opinions!
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> Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx wrote:
> I am not attacking the drawings(read my posts carefully), remember =
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> us has been allowed to see them???
> What I am concerned over is the artists own dislike, posted on her =
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> of the American dogs, and apparently its people. This is a clear =
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> least have the decency BEFORE you start, to remove the nasty opinion =
IMO that is a rather strong statement to make... I don't recall anything =
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> VERY BREED you are bashing. I don't recall her "bashing anything," =
I was under the understanding that she was referring to all GSD's in her =
work, and states, in her opinion, what faults each has as well as =
merits.... I was also under the impression that whether they be American =
bred or German bred or DDR bred, they were all GSD's. I also noted that =
she gives the reasons behind her opinions, which is something that a lot =
of us do not do!
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