In a message dated 3/10/2005 11:52:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, gsdsforlife@ yahoo.ca writes: Oh, and where the heck do you get the idea that "most dogs hate obedience training"? Whaaaaat?? The bells and whistles, the food, the extreme measures handlers have to go thru to train for obedience shows how unwilling dogs are to do obedience. People are all but standing on their heads to get good performances. Many dogs are happy in this training, but most are not.in my opinion. Dogs do love herding and agility, and owners have noticed. Syd SYD MAILBERG 425-432-4144 NEW FRIESIAN PAINTING ON WEBSITE 23910 SE 276TH ST MAPLE VALLEY, WA 98038 _http://www.kingswoodgermanshepherds.homestead.com_ (http://kingswoodgermanshepherds.homestead.com/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================